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Worst Case Of Die Crack Ever?

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 Posted 03/13/2011  9:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...:WNA:US:1123

From the obverse, this 1799 dollar looks fine.
From the reverse, it looks like two coins were super-glued together to make one!
I have always had a special fondness for 1799 silver dollars, ever since a high school classmate brought one to school in tenth grade and passed it around.
I know nothing about die varieties, but I thought the specialists might want to check this one out.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meldude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The wear on the left wing seems odd... It could be a scratch
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 Posted 03/14/2011  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the 1799 dollar known for fakes? If so,could this be a fake? Just wondering. Thanks,
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 Posted 03/14/2011  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Details on it look accurate but I don't know the series well enough to look for more advanced markers
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Yes there are several different fakes known for 1799. I tried running this one through the Cardinal Foundation's attribution wizard and the varieties it came up with don't match this coin. Of course it is possible I missed something when running the wizard because I couldn't get a good enlargement of the coin.

Well I did some searching on Heritage and it does check out. It's a 1799 B-22, R-5.
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It is genuine...... Bolender 22.

edited to add:
Too late with the info I see, but anyway, there are far more severe die breaks than this one on very early U.S. coins. Very neat and very desirable though...
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 Posted 03/14/2011  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That reverse on the 1799 is pretty dramatic. The die has split in two and shifted.
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Very neat and very desirable though...


And very expensive !

It's great news that you folks consider it genuine, and that it's a known variety.
Yes, I am- or soon will be- the delighted new owner.
My coin acquisition budget, however, is now
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Congratulations!!
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Congrats! Great set of coins!

Enjoy the new purchase!
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 Posted 03/22/2011  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's here !

Now everyone can see what a really pretty coin it is.
I'm glad I took a chance on the auction in spite of the poor photos in the listing. The coin is much better 'in hand' as they say, than in the pics I am posting. The die crack is very dramatic. The toning is attractive. The ribbon legend is complete and the eye of the eagle is visible. These last two were primary considerations for me in my search for one of these early dollars.

It is very likely that I will never again spend this much for a single coin.. as long as I can resist the temptation to shop for the 'small eagle' version!

I would appreciate comments on the grade of this coin, as well as links to sites where I can grade it for myself.

Thanks to everyone for your input. May your treasure hunts be rewarding.



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I just found this thread and I must admit, that is a VERY impressive die break! Since the auction listing is now long gone, mind posting how much it cost?
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Wow--the reverse die is basically split in half! And it appears the die has shifted too?
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 Posted 11/21/2012  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My heart sank when I saw the listing was gone...but then I scrolled down. CONGRATULATIONS!
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My heart sank when I saw the listing was gone...but then I scrolled down. CONGRATULATIONS!


That's among the many reasons why we generally frown upon bumping threads which are a year and a half old.
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