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Low MS Or AU 1878 Morgan 8TF

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 Posted 04/02/2011  12:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up this Morgan a couple weekends ago - can't tell if it's MS w/ a number of bag marks and a weak strike, or if it's been circulated...

(By the way, I think it is a VAM-18, but this one was my first attempt at determining the VAM of a coin)



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 Posted 04/02/2011  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to say MS because I do not see anything that would be considered wear on the Obverse. I can't see the Reverse very well because I would need a straight on shot like the Obverse to be able to be 100% sure but I am still sticking with MS with the pictures provided
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 Posted 04/02/2011  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're right about 18. Look at "LLAR." VAM-20, the other choice, has dramatic doubling of those letters where 18 is much more subtle. VAM-20's doubling will look as strong as the date's doubling; 18 will not.

Very pretty, but based on the obverse my gut tells me "barely circulated" rather than Mint State.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin I agree with SuperDave there is just a touch of rub above the ear so probably AU-58.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade it at a low MS, MS-60 to MS-61.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're normally more conservative than I, echizento, so it gives me pause to think. I love the photographic character of these images, but they're not easy to base grading opinions on as a result.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guess I mellowing in my old age Dave. I really didn't see any wear, I think the spot above the eye is a spot and not rub so I went with low MS.
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 Posted 04/03/2011  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
regardless of grade, it is a coin you can be proud and happy to own!
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 Posted 04/04/2011  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone else feel like the hits on the obverse look a little smoothed over (like it has seen light circulation?). I feel like bad mark hits are usually sharper around the edges of the hits. AU-59
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 Posted 04/04/2011  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58 based on the slight dull/dark look of Liberty's cheek. Very close to MS.
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I would say AU 55. Looks to be slightly worn on cheek and a touch above the ear. I definitely agree that it is very hard to tell when a coin is extremely close to going one way or the other from one pic. I would not be one bit surprised that if I took a look at it in person my opinion might change.
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 Posted 04/04/2011  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all! I've uploaded a couple of more photos.

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It almost looks like damage above the ear as opposed to just mild wear. There do seem to be a few other lightened spots though at high points.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Las_Vegas_Larry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like lady liberty has taken quite a beating. I don't think there is any wear. The reverse is clear. My guess would be MS62. However when I send coins in for grading they come back two grades lower than I thought or genuine.

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 Posted 04/08/2011  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm generally not into toned coins but this one has some nice light toning giving it some personality. IMHO I'd go 60, hits on the cheek are very distracting, but overall nice one. A keeper.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice 8TF. It took some coin contact (obviously). I'd want to see the reverse straight-on, too. The obverse has circulation wear on it, but the coin could still market grade low MS. It's a shot of the dice, really, the way I see it.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The obverse has circulation wear on it, but the coin could still market grade low MS. It's a shot of the dice, really, the way I see it.


Yeah, like that. I'm not even sure I could decide this one if I had it in my hand.
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