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Not to ask a silly question, but trying to label this 1998 LMC. The planchet has damage before being struck, but is there a term used for this ?  
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Bedrock of the Community
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If the planchet were damaged, wouldn't we see the same marks in the Lincoln Memorial? Are gouges on the die a plausible explanation?
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Pillar of the Community
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they're die polish marks
Edited by Adam_E 05/29/2011 1:13 pm
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I'm thinking that if it was on the planchet before being struck, wouldn't you see it in the raised areas and not in the fields? If you look at the right side of the Memorial between the two columns, you'll notice that the lines do not match up like they would if it was on the planchet. Die polish marks? That straight? Could be I suppose. Are the lines raised or embedded?
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the lines do not appear to be raised..... or is it an illusion ?  
Edited by Wild Bill 05/29/2011 1:57 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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 with Kenringold. The die's fields would flatten planchet defects, and it would be easily seen in recessed portions of the die, ie the legends and memorial. I'm guessing these marks are incuse in the fields of the die--and raised on the coin. Just a guess. 
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Nice find I am looking forward to a final verdict on this one.
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 Now the lines are matching! This makes it harder to believe it is from polishing to me. If the lines are not raised in the cent then they would be in the die, right? So if it was from polishing, it looks like the guy used the edge of the tool and should be fired!?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Feeder finger damage. They are thin steel plates that feed the planchets to the dies for striking. Occasionally, one will scrape across a die, leaving a series of parallel die gouges.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Feeder finger die scrapes. They happen on the outside part of the die. Which is the fields. That makes it appear like they run through devices, but it is just damage on the out side edge of the die.  They are not just die polishing as they all flow at the same angle. Die polishing is irregular. Can be minor or really strong as the OP coin shows.
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Thanks biokemist6 and coop, you have given me just what I was hoping to get and I'm grateful.
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ah, okay, thanks coop, I got them mixed up, die polish marks are irregular and Feeder Finger Damage flows at the same angle
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I totally agree with the feeder finger diagnosis plus this is the worse case I have seen.
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I sure like learning something new. 
Edited by KenRingold 05/30/2011 01:17 am
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