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The grainy appearance is only a way to tell if on the white/slag metal planchets. The markers are the best way if on the 40% or 90% silver planchets. The ops coin was made by HK Replica. China.
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10/08/2012 2:20 pm
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It's looking like grading this coin would be a waste of money. I think I'll just cut it in half and be done with it.
Thanks to everyone for your help. I've learned a lot.
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I could be mistaken, but if ICCS returns it ungraded (as they would do with a fake), then they also return your fee. If you are already planning on sending other items in for grading, then if I am correct sending this coin in as well will not be a loss one way or the other.
I'm sure that one of the other posters with more experience would be able to confirm this.
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Thanks for the info Middross. If it's true then I won't get the hack saw out just yet.
Speaking of ICCS, I'd like to contact them but if they have a web site I sure can't find it.
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ICCS has no website, just call them
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Yeah ICCS is really weird like that, I prefer CCCS, because they have a data base to check the coins and they do hard cases
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Why would anyone suggest sending a known counterfeit coin in for grading? It makes no sense.
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It's looking like grading this coin would be a waste of money. I think I'll just cut it in half and be done with it.
Thanks to everyone for your help. I've learned a lot. Or, you could send it to me. I am analyzing counterfeit coins (by XRF) with Mike Marshall. Over time, I am slowly assembling a dataset of counterfeit coin composition. After testing, coins (and results) are sent to the RCMP. I would even take a cut half of a coin, for analysis. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Why would anyone suggest sending a known counterfeit coin in for grading? It makes no sense.
Maybe the OP would like to have an opinion based on a professional with the coin in hand, as opossed to people telling him that it is a fake based on pictures. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you are not qulified to spot a fake, because I really don't know. I know that I'm not. What I am saying is that the guys at grading companies like ICCS or CCCS do this for a living and would refuse to grade it if it was a fake. No harm in sending it in if he is already sending in other coins as well. Then the OP can have piece of mind knowing that he took every step to ensure that this is or isn't a fake before destroying it. |
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Exactly how I feel st this juncture Middross. And so I've decided to send it off when I have a batch ready to grade. I'm now 99% certain it's fake but there will always be that small, nagging 1% doubt until I hear it straight from a professional grader who has had it in hand.
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Based on the OP's picture, I'm 100% sure the coin is a fake.
But you're right, to be absolutely sure, have ICCS take a look at it.
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The coin is a fake.Not because it looks odd or grainy,but because it has the markers of a fake.Nickelsguy is the foremost authority on Chinese counterfeit Canadian coins,when he declares it fake,it's over,no other opinion is required.No point wasting money sending it to ICCS.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Well, you heard them Peter4805. Now I know who to ask if there is ever a question of a fake. Thanks guys.
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Always get a proper opinion on any RARE coin. That is the primary reason that the TPG s are there. While I agree that this coin is a FAKE 1875H ( Blatantly obvious) it never hurts to get a questionable coined checked as the cost is minimal and if one is a dealer it is a small business expense. I recently purchased a large US Morgan Silver dollar collection from a client who bought all the coins pre 1970 when there were no certification services. I was dead certain the 1894 Philly was NOT right and was pleasantly surprised when it came back from NGC as VG10 genuine. Take care and keep hunting for rarities! |
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my avatar, a 1875 10 Cent, happens to be authentic. no grain no funny gray look... just simply a nice coin. IT will go to a TPG and will then be offered later. Question is: which TPG (in Canada)? |
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