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 Posted 07/07/2024  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Makitag to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a TF-08 to me which would be the LC-48-8 you mentioned.
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Thank you, Makitag!
Very helpful, and a little affirmation always brightens one's day!
I've never had access to the the Ingram book on Tiffins, and since I don't collect them...




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 Posted 08/29/2024  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Recently picked up one of the nicer LC-60-9s I've seen. It arrived with an envelope written in some old-school penmanship. If anyone can ID the provenance, or has seen similar before, please let me know!

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Nice Bust & Harp, but yes, great penmanship too, blargish! This could have come from my maternal grandmother's recipe box!


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 Posted 08/29/2024  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, blargish!
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I'm finally finding some time to look more closely into this "lucky pickup" from ebay that arrived from the UK back in May. It's an undated Anglo-Canadian halfpenny token bearing the widely-used legends "Pure Copper Preferable to Paper" and "For General Accommodation." As a Thomas Halliday issue it was presumably struck 1812-1815 like his Nova Scotia pennies and halves of similar design.

We don't often see any of the five varieties of Breton 966 with the stripes on all the sails intact, but the icing on the cake is that my specimen is the very rare plain-edge/coin-turn example, which makes it plenty hard enough to find in any condition.

Just noticed that the ship is flying St. George's Cross, or the national flag of England (only). I guess I have more research to do, but off the top of my head I'm not remembering any other Canadian ship tokens showing this flag. Anyone?

Also, any thoughts on grading would be much appreciated as my focus on the tokens of the British Regency Period insulates me pretty thoroughly from the sort of numerical grading employed in Charlton. I'm leaning toward EF+ on account of those two sails on the bowsprit (the upper one furled), but could MS be within reach?


Breton 966; Charlton AM-1A2; Withers Non-Local 1670 bis; Davis Not Local 99, but unlisted variant.
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Very nice, daltonista!
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Just noticed that the ship is flying St. George's Cross, or the national flag of England (only). I guess I have more research to do, but off the top of my head I'm not remembering any other Canadian ship tokens showing this flag. Anyone?

Only one I can think of is Breton 1005, but there may be others.

Nice token! Always hard to tell from photos, but I'd lean AU.
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Thank you, Blargish -- you nailed it!

Even better, I just happen to have a Breton 1005 at hand, so I can literally show the flag. This type is listed in Charlton as LC-56C1, and for an interesting comparison against the raw Breton 966 I posted yesterday, this specimen is NGC-slabbed at MS-61, ex-Doug Robins. Hmmm...all the other ships grouped together with it in Charlton are flying the Union Jack.


Lower Canada, undated halfpenny token. Breton 1005; Charlton LC-56C1; Withers Non-Local 1628; Davis Not Local 97.
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Nice addition, daltonista!
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 Posted 08/31/2024  09:58 am  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@daltonista - that token looks UNC to me. How's the lustre?
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1960NYGiants asked: "...that token looks UNC to me. How's the lustre?"


Pretty significant, Gene...I'd say about 40% "mint bloom" peeking out from behind the legends, sails, and rigging, but most noticeable as background to the denomination. It's showing up as a lighter color in the (seller's) photo that I posted above.

Since I posted, I've found a few others of the type for comparison and now I'm firmly in the MS camp on this one. If so, I got a heckuva bargain on ebay (based on recent sales and current Charlton values, anyway). As an example, Clement himself sold this one at CDN $850, and mine's showing less wear in the foresails. Heritage shows a 2018 sale of that exact ex-Robins specimen as an uncertified AU.

I guess I'll find out for sure pretty soon, as I'll be liquidating the Canadian section of my collection next year when I find the right auction house. Recommendations, anyone?

Thank you for your input!
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In Canada, I would go with Geoff Bell Auctions.

In USA, Heritage.

You could also send me or Clement the list for direct offers.
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