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Thank you, Gene! Wasn't sure if the Bell firm would be continuing without him, so I will definitely contact them. Hoping to sync my material with RCNA or Torex for exposure, but haven't got any feedback yet on The Canadian Numuismatic Company...although I have noticed they report pretty good hammer prices. Heritage has expressed interest, but only if all my dozens and dozens of sale items are slabbed by PCGS or NCG (which they'll be glad to handle for me). Like the Breton 966 posted above, all but 15 or so of my Canadian/Borderline tokens are raw.
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One of the unicorn varieties as far as Tiffin tokens go... TF-09/Courteau 9; which Dr. C rated an R9. I've only ever seen maybe ~5 examples and never in person until now. Was happy to cherry-pick this guy even with the hole. Cheers!  |
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Very nice, blargish. Errers and Varietys.
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 Congrats on a great find, Blargish! Especially now that I've peeked at my Charlton and seen how rare this variety must be...certainly in the top three or four for Tiffins. You can hardly be accused of cherry-picking when you end up with a damaged piece like that one. BTW, I'm old enough, unfortunately, to remember a time when "cherry-picking" almost any Canadian copper tokens was a contradiction in terms -- they ALL cost a quarter or a half-dollar apiece in the farthest reaches of upstate NY. The downside was that you generally would have to buy a whole cigar box or coffee can full of assorted stuff to get at them.
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One of the unicorn varieties as far as Tiffin tokens go... Outstanding! |
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I'm finding myself stuck in attributing this PEI Ships, Colonies, & Commerce token, one of nine I picked up 45+ years ago as part of a "cigar box find" in the Adirondacks. I've been working with the Charlton 11th Edition and its fabulous flowcharts and decision trees, as well as with the nifty online guide at coinsandcanada.com, but I have no confidence in what I'm coming up with. This token's wear is no doubt a factor in that, and so is the fact that I've never really handled this series enough to become familiar with its quirks.
Here's what I *think* I see but I'm more than willing to be corrected if you can confirm or eliminate something based on the two photos below!
__ British Flag, curved
__ No mintmark
__ Two guys do NOT meet.
__ Bar Ampersand
__ Perfect E's ( ? )
__ The left edge of the first O in Colonies aligns with the right edge of the O in Commerce.
Any help you can provide will be much appreciated!
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@daltonista - nice token and rare. I see it as Lees-21, PE-10-21, SCC-21 - Rarity = R9
Obverse #18
No H mintmark
Curved British flag
Guys do not meet
Reverse #21
Bar &
1st O of COLONIES aligns with 1st M of COMMERCE
For those studying these, I recommend "The Ships Colonies & Commerce Tokens of Colonial Canada" by Greg Ingram and Branko Marelic published in 2006. This book follows the protocol established by Judge Lees and contains hi res color photos to easily identify the varieties. Charlton restructured their listings to align with this book.
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09/15/2024 12:01 pm
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I see it as Lees-21, PE-10-21, SCC-21
Thank you, Gene. I was leaning that way too but I didn't want to say it out loud...thought it would be presumptuous for a PEI rookie like me to ID this at all, given the way it book$ in Charlton.
I can still visualize the barn outside of Ticonderoga where I found this and about 80-90 other early Canadian and US tokens and coins. A rocker my wife found there that same day is still in use in our granddaughter's bedroom, and I've always associated that chair with my cigar-box tokens!
I've assigned it a grade of F -- am I in the ballpark?
Thanks again -- Tom
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Daltonista: I've assigned it a grade of F -- am I in the ballpark? A grade between F-12 and F-15 seems fairly realistic to me. I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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Here's another one of my old mayonnaise-jar finds from the Adirondacks that I'm finally getting around to identifying. It turns out this one celebrating the war hero Wellington is like the holed unicorn Blargish posted back on September 7: totally unattractive, but also pretty much unobtainable in any condition. I was shocked to see that Charlton stops its listing at VF with a value of $500. Mine would probably pass for VG...maybe.Breton 980, Charlton WE-9, Withers 1574, RRR.
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Very nice, daltonista! Errers and Varietys.
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Yep, you don't see that one often daltonista, and you found these in a jar?! I better start hanging around barns in upstate NY
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