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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades. Looking For 440s

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 Posted 03/21/2017  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We've been on this decade for about a month and a half. Anyone out there with a coin from the 680s AD? Anyone? Bueller?




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Did we ever try placing a time limitation to remain in any decade under observation?

For example, if the search remains stalled after two months of no activity, could we possibly combine the next decade to be searched with the presently stalled decade?

This would mean that the newly added decade and the previously impeded decade would both start off together and have a brand new time constraint of two months to search for two combined decades.

If activity is still absent after this brand new two month period of searching two decades, we could then add on another new decade to end up with a new two month time period to hunt for coins within three decades and so on and on etc.

By doing it this way we would never lose a coin from any latecomer unaware of the rules of engagement.

Are there any motions to approve this course of action, recommendations to improve this proposal or flat out rejections etc?
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Interesting proposal. I would be against it for the typical HFBCWG threads, but this one is certainly different in that is uses decades instead of years. Of course, this is just my comment as an observer. I think the regular contributors need to make the decision.
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I think that when a month goes by and nobody has a particular decade it should be noted and we move onto the next decade. If someone can fill a coin for any missed decade it can be submitted and the post moved by editing the instruction to move on, this way all the decades will appear in order still.

We might end up with a situation where we get back to 600BC and have a couple of dozen missing decades but at least we will make progress and I am sure once we get back into Roman and Greek periods this thread will become much more popular.

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This is a silver dirham from my collection. It's minted in the style of Arab-Sasanian series. From the Zubayrid caliphate, and in the name of caliph 'Abd Allah Ibn Al-Zubayr, even though it's commonly mistaken for an Umayyad issue. Minted in Darabjird year AH 66 (Hijri calender), which corresponds to AD 685-686.
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Page 45, the coin that is supposed to be AD 737 is misidentified. The coin's date is AH 106 not 119, which puts the coin earlier by 13 years.
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Wow, we move one decade further on and realise we are missing an earlier decade ^^ still at least there is movement :-)
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Page 45, the coin that is supposed to be AD 737 is misidentified.


Looks like that was @Arkie's coin. Fortunately, we had two coins posted from that decade so we can "count" the other posted coin and continue our movement back in time.

A big thanks to @mohammadaak for posting his coin from the 680s. Starting tomorrow am, we are on to the decade of the 670s!
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We're not, in fact, missing anything - the coin being referred to (the gold dinar, right?) was posted slightly out of order (and, ironically enough, the fixed date actually makes its order correct).

Sadly the coin that currently stands for the 7th century AD spot in my "at least one coin from each century" quest is a few decades too early (and too uncertain) to help progress this thread any farther.
(Still missing 10th, 11th and 14th centuries AD for this project; also obviously missing 5th century BC and earlier. Recently found a nice example for 4th century BC; will buy at first opportunity.)
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Looks like that was @Arkie's coin. Fortunately, we had two coins posted from that decade so we can "count" the other posted coin and continue our movement back in time.

A big thanks to @mohammadaak for posting his coin from the 680s. Starting tomorrow am, we are on to the decade of the 670s!
Excellent!
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Bump. We are looking for a coin minted int he decade of the 670s AD.
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Please find below for what may be a second Arab-Sassanian coin from the 680s, or perhaps a smidge earlier... I believe that this drachm was minted under the authority of Ubayd Allah b. Zuyad. The mint is Basra, but I'm a little confused about the date. On the envelope from the dealer, the date is listed as both 680-683 AD and AH 57 (even though that AH date corresponds to 676/677 AD). I know from Stephen Album's catalog that the date could be anywhere from 674 to 683 AD for coins attributed as A#12, which this is.

What do you guys think about the date on this coin?

[I should have also mentioned that I have spent some time on the excellent website from beast coins that discusses many attributes of Sassanian coins, but was unable to get the date page to work.]


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...second Arab-Sassanian coin


Could this be some sort of intentional scary-looking coin representing the thwarting off of evil spirits or possibly discouraging potential adversaries from encroachment into non-hostile domains?

No matter what it is, I like its design.
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