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For what it's worth, I'm a Canadian collector of U.S. Lincolns and, I really like the Shield design never did care for the Memorial that much.
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The shield is fine but I don't like how it's drawn. I find it troubling having such a low relief.
Low relief is a reality when you have to mint billions each year.


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I think the shield design is good. Simple and clean and it works well with the low relief. Probably better than many of the other designs would have.
I agree. If low relief is the reason for not liking the design, then no design will be satisfactory.



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Even better the cent should just be done away with. Nobody wants them, I see them tossed around and on the ground. They are very dirty coins as well.
They most definitely need to stop minting them for circulation, but I would like to get them in sets, bags, and rolls like the Kennedy half dollar.

Think about it. An NIFC cent would sell for a premium anyway, so they could mint them in bronze and in higher relief.
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An NIFC cent would sell for a premium anyway, so they could mint them in bronze and in higher relief.

That would be most welcome.
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Some things should just come to an end. The half should have ended the day it was no longer issued for circulation. Once a coin no longer serves the need for commerce, it should be so long, farewell. To continue would make the series lopsided. Mintages would be vastly lower than previous years and since they wouldn't be issued for circulation there would be no shortage of them in mint state therefore making them not so special and carry little premium.
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I had wished we went with LP-17 for aesthetic reasons, but the shield reverse isn't too bad.

Come to think of it, I think it would be really neat if we went with any of the reverses with the flag, but then admitted Puerto Rico as a state. Would have been a really cool opportunity for a modern variety!

Completely agree on raising the relief and switching the cent to an all-bronze NIFC coin.
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I like the idea of a shield cent. I feel like it could have been executed a little better but it beats the Memorial design. Neither that nor the current Jefferson nickel designs have much going for them, in my opinion.

I was secretly hoping for a return to the Wheat cent design in 2010 but alas.
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Some things should just come to an end. The half should have ended the day it was no longer issued for circulation. Once a coin no longer serves the need for commerce, it should be so long, farewell.
Problem is that people want them. As long as there is a market for them, the mint is going to make them; it would be foolish to walk away from that profit.


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To continue would make the series lopsided. Mintages would be vastly lower than previous years and since they wouldn't be issued for circulation there would be no shortage of them in mint state therefore making them not so special and carry little premium.
You need to convince those buying them. The mint will never see it this way, that is not their concern.
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Dislike it I wish they at least would make them Bronze with some "weight" to 'em.


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Think about it. An NIFC cent would sell for a premium anyway, so they could mint them in bronze and in higher relief.


This is brilliant

I'd even like to see a "recycling" program to melt the old and make the new...blasphemous I know.
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True about the low relief. Although high reliefs are obviously preferred, they are no longer utilitarian. I do like the idea of an NIFC. I would hate to have they be ridded of completely.
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It is weakly struck and the design is horrible
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I'm a fan of the shield design. The Memorial always seemed really boring - very few countries are lazy enough to just put head-on famous buildings on their coins, and any building looks boring from the front. When I was younger always wondered why the Most Important Country In The World didn't have more exciting coins. I didn't know what exactly was out there until I started buying more foreign coins, and now I can safely say that almost anything more than wreaths or words is more interesting than the Lincoln Memorial. Monticello, a generic bald eagle, and the Great Seal are also pretty boring. (I like intricate national crests, but the Great Seal is just too weird. It looks better on the dollar bill.) But I really like the Roosevelt dime, and the Eisenhower/Susan B. Anthony design is just fantastic. What a shame that it never became popular - the eagle on the moon is so weird that it's awesome. Compared to the rest of American coins, it's a great standout. (Even Susan B.'s portrait is pretty well-done, I've never known why people hated it.)

I think that re-using classic designs would be honestly uninspired. It's like giving up - "oh, the past was better, let's just forget about what's happened since then". And aesthetics change - we now live in a modern age of simple but striking designs, which is why I think the Shield Cent is a great step forward.

Now I can opine about other American modern coins. You shouldn't have given me this chance.

Jefferson's unconventional portrait - I really like it. Profiles are definitely dated, so it's great to see this update. For the last few decades, non-profile portraits have slowly been gaining ground across the world, and they always are more interesting than the profiles that they replaced. Here are three portraits on three Mexican silver coins from my collection that use unconventional angles:

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So, just accept the Jeff, and I hope that every American coinage portrait will be redesigned similarly.

ATB Quarters - They're pretty nice but there's a lot of them. (At least they're better than the State Quarters - some were spectacular, but some [Texas] were total flops.) Why not have more one-off circulating commemoratives, like the Bicentennial coins?

NIFC Kennedys - Good riddance to these, these things are maybe a little bit too big. Why not do something with that size? I hope to see a redesigned American half one day, maybe smaller, maybe with an interesting shape.

Presidential dollars - I like these, at least they don't all look the exact same. I'm OK with the edge lettering, although it seems quite poorly applied. The Statue of Liberty looks pretty nice, too.

Native American dollars - These are just awesome. They're actually world-class, every year they commemorate something interesting and the design is always beautiful. What an incredible shame that the newest ones don't really circulate - no matter how hard I look, I can't find any of the commemoratives up here. Please make more.
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I dont really like the shueld cents, I would've loved to see the LP-10 (flag) cent.
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I like the Shield Cent.
What I would really like to see is a new definitive reverse design issued for circulation only evey year, together with a large number of commemmorative issued for circulation ONLY coins, also issued each year.

That would get kids interested in collecting coins and starting a whole new generation of coin collectors. It would get kids collecting coins from their pocket change again, at a very minimal cost to them.

If they get rid of the Cent, it could be done with nickels.

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I think that LP-10 would have been the worst. A flag? Really?


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Low relief is a reality when you have to mint billions each year.

But they don't need to. This is the issue. Spend a few billion of your seigniorage to properly advocate people turning in their hoards of coins stored in jars at home. Get in touch with the USPS and give complementary coin wrappers to everyone. Also try to keep the probably half billion cents each year from being just THROWN AWAY with their weekly garbage pickup. Just a pipe-dream.
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I still think that the shield design looks too much like play money.
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