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How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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 Posted 05/22/2018  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1517 -- Ottingen, 1 batzen:

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 Posted 05/22/2018  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bought absolutely amazing 1517 Lithuanian half-groat in a days. Coin is still on a way, so the pictures from the auction, sorry. 49B in our book, date 151Λ°, 5th Knight.
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The next item 1517 is on my hands. 49H in our book.

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 Posted 05/22/2018  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pepactonius, WOW on the Ottingen coin. I wish I had one so sharp. And I hadn't realized the coat of arms has a dog on it. Not quite so common as lions, eagles or even bears in medieval heraldry.
Likewise, a couple of great Lithuanian half groats today!
(I will just be watching until 1513).
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I'm taking a couple day break from Lithuania. Here is a uniface Pfennig from the Austrian State of Kärnten dated 1517 AD. It is attributed as Saurma 763.


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1516 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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 Posted 05/23/2018  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one - rare and strange Lithuanian 1516? half-groat with the re engraved date, 1S406-3 in Ivanauskas book and 45B in our (but I'm not sure in correct dating till now).
The next one - unpublished 1516 Lithuanian half-groat with the short date, mistake SIGIS:MVNDI and four annulets at the end of rev. legend. Called it as 46AE1.

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 Posted 05/23/2018  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Half Batzen from the Austrian Duchy of Styria dated 1516 AD. It is attributed as Saurma 730.

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 Posted 05/24/2018  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1515 -- Kempten, 1/2 batzen:

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 Posted 05/24/2018  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lithuanian half-groat 1515. Mistake SIGIS:MVNDI. 44H in our book.

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Back to Lithuania for me. Here is a Half Groschen dated 1515 AD. Based on the pattern of annulets, this looks like a Huletski 44J (Kopicki 3141).


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1514 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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 Posted 05/25/2018  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lithuanian half-groat 1514 with mistake LITVNIE instead of LITVANIE. 43J in our book.
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 Posted 05/25/2018  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Half Groschen from Lithuania dated 1514 AD. It looks like a Huletski 43E (Kopicki 3140).
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 Posted 05/25/2018  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence IMHO this is unpublished one with the dot on reverse below the eagle. It can be as 43E2 in new issues of the book. My coin:


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Ah ok thanks for the more specific attribution @giedrius. I hadn't even noticed that dot under the eagle's wing on our coins.
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