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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In looking through some long-ago set-aside coins, I noticed this 1978-P Jefferson nickel with an odd arcing impression in the same location on both the obverse and reverse. If it's PMD, it would have taken pressure from two coins (or other circular objects) -- one each side -- to produce these mirror-image impressions. Also, if it's a vise job or some other type of squeezing, why would some of the high points (e.g. Monticello and the bust) not be as affected as some of the lower fields?   |
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Certainly looks like a vise job to me. Typically the first part of the design to transfer over from the outside coins is their rims. I think that this is what you are seeing in these arcuate depressions.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I'm thinking it may be a partial clip. That would account
for the Obverse and Reverse arcs lining up with each other.
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United States
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Hmm, maybe @jimmy. I think that seeing a nice (in-focus) pic of the edge at the point where these arc intersect could be helpful. Can you please add that to this thread @half? Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks Spence and JimmyD. I always thought it might be a partial clip, which is why I've kept it in a 2X2 all these years. Sorry the photos aren't real clear.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@Spence -- I'll try to get those in-focus edge pix on Friday. Will get a better camera charged and ditch the cell camera.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If it were a partial clip, then the fields would show a cut line:  As mentioned,taking two coins and putting them between two boards with a hammer would affected the faces/rims on a coin. Note the affected rims are showing a widening of the rim on that area. Note the example above, you just see the cut and not widening of the rims. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Wouldn't this area be affected by a vise job, by that I mean, wouldn't his neck/ pony tail be smushed or distorted? From what I can see the line flows even down into the space between them without appearing to affect the image ( other than the line ). Just throwing out my thought about it, my knowledge is very limited, in my mind though this area would be distorted at the least.   |
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New Member
United States
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I believe that for the most part, one wouldn't spend the time, energy, and effort to go through such an elaborate ruse to create such an image on a high mintage, low value coin just to come on a posting thread to ask what people think.
Even if it is a partial clip, it wouldn't raise the value of the coin by that much.
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02/12/2021 4:35 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Note the strength of the example I posted of the full line. From end to end, it is the same strength. On your coin, the thicker/highest part of the design is weakened. Just shows me the coin was altered
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here are a couple of photos of the coin's edge. There are "impressions" on the rim, but there does not appear to be any disruption on the edge.   |
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