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Portugal 1000 Reis 1845

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Guy Parry's Avatar
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 Posted 05/03/2017  02:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Guy Parry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's a Portguese 1000 reis I picked up recently. Seemed
priced too low for such a limited mintage (AUS$40) so I had
little to lose - fakes are as interesting in some ways as
genuine coins, imho. It isn't magnetic, ring seems a trifle
high-pitched and weight is a tad low: 27.24g. What do you think?

Portugal-1000-Reis-1845

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 Posted 05/03/2017  02:56 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not familiar with these coins..in fact I've never seen one before..but it just has a look to it..my gut is telling me it's a fake..i hope I am wrong though:)
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 05/03/2017  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks bad.

Here are the images of a counterfeit coin straight from China:

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Portugal-1000-Reis-1845

Note how many details match...
- the denomination which looks like it says '1009 REIS' with a line between the second zero and the nine,
- strange leaf-shaped incuse area around REIS,
- scratch right of shield,
- barely visible cross atop the coat of arms,
- hit on the nose,
- crater between the head and the bun...
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05/03/2017 05:50 am
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Uruguay
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 Posted 05/03/2017  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cara to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guy parry, sorry I agree It is a fake.
The best way to convince oneself is to compare it with a genuine coin:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/portugal/w...bnail-022817
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05/03/2017 2:06 pm
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 Posted 05/03/2017  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Notice those short lines on the neck and cheek? Some look like small triangles- perhaps two or three or four maybe connected with a short thin line? Those marks are found on many Chinese fakes. I'm not sure what causes them. I was thinking maybe a took mark for grabbing a hot coin or maybe these coins fall on edge as they pile up.
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Yes, that last pic is pretty definitive, but as I
said, only forty bucks.
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