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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 01/17/2023  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some amazing coins posted for this decade and it sounds like we have at least one more on its way. Keep them coming!
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 Posted 01/18/2023  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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and it sounds like we have at least one more on its way
Indeed! Though I wouldn't call it amazing...



Byzantine Empire, civic issue of Cherson
Basil I, ca. 867-882 AD
Sear Byzantine 1719 var, Esty Cherson E16

Obverse: B-like letter, pellet on each side
Reverse: cross on steps, pellet on each side [almost illegible on this example]
15 mm, 1.75 grams
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 Posted 01/18/2023  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well we can agree to disagree, cuz that looks pretty amazing to me. Thx for adding it to the thread and let's drop back to the 850s starting in the morning.
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 Posted 01/19/2023  05:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Archbishop Wulfhere Phase IIc Styca, 854-900

York. Bronze, 1.06g. +VLFHEDARED. +VVLFRED retrograde (moneyer Wulfred) (S 871).
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 Posted 01/20/2023  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Fals from the Tahirid Dynasty that was issued by Tahir b. 'Abd Allah. It was minted in Al Shash (Tashkent, Uzbekistan) and is dated AH 241, which corresponds to 855-856 AD.



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 Posted 01/24/2023  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like we might be stopping at two entries for this decade. Let's give it until tomorrow morning and then drop back to the decade of the 840s.
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 Posted 01/25/2023  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This temple denier of the Kingdom of Middle Francia issued under Lothaire I has a date range starting at 840 (Numista has it as 840-850). While it was attributed as "unknown mint" when I bought it, I believe current thinking is that it was struck at Lyon.
Morrison#580-587, Numista#321074



Obv: Cross with pellet in each corner. LVTHIARIVS IIIP
Rev: Temple. XPISTIANA RELGO
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 Posted 01/25/2023  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Northumbrian Styca, somewhat similar to the one posted by @john, except that the date range is 841 to 844 AD. The obv inscription is + E DELRED R while the rev inscription is +LEOFDEGN. I have attributed it as Spink 865, North 188, and Pirie 236.


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 Posted 01/26/2023  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suddenly, there are lots of coins I could post. This is the time when the Northumbrian Anglo-Saxons struck a lot of coins, and especially Æthelred II, not to be confused with Æthelred II the Unready, 978-1016. Both the Northumbrian Æthelred II and Æthelred II the Unready had two reigns.

Spence's styca is Æthelred II from his first reign (c841-844), moneyer Leofthegn. Æthelred II also ruled c844-850. The gap in 844 was usurper Rædwulf's reign, but Rædwulf was killed by Vikings and nothing else is known about him.

The dates are all very approximate. Some references give Aethelred II's reigns as 854-858 and 858-862.

Redwulf Styca, 841-844

York. Bronze, 0.91g. Double struck. Small cross; [RED]VVLF. Small cross; [+VEN]DELBER[HT] (Wendelberht moneyer). Found near Beverley, East Yorkshire. Portable Antiquities Scheme: YORYM-ACCFC3 https://finds.org.uk/database/artef...rd/id/831888
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 Posted 01/26/2023  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm glad to hang out here in this decade and let you post 'em all @john! Just let me know when you are either out of coins to post or don't want to post any more.

I have one other coin that was minted starting in this decade. Here is a Denier of the French City State of Melle that dates to between 840 and 877 AD. It was minted in POteiers under the authority of Charles the Bald. The obv inscription is +MET+VLLO and the rev inscription is +CARLVS REX FR. I have attributed it as Roberts 982 and Greier 948.




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 Posted 01/27/2023  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I'll post them all as they all look rather similar, and there are more for other decades.

This is Osberht, who killed Æthelred II, perhaps in 849, 850 or 862. Osberht was deposed by Ælla (who might've been his brother) but they joined forces to defend against the Vikings. They were both killed and the Vikings controlled the area from then on.

Osberht Phase IIc Styca, 849-867

Northumbria. Copper, 0.83g. +OSBERCHT REX outward and partially retrograde. +EANNLE (moneyer Eanwulf) (SCBI 69, 1015 this coin; S 869).
Ex Tony Abramson. Found at Thirkleby, North Yorkshire.
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 Posted 01/27/2023  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice deniers, Spence and tdziemia, and interesting stycas, JohnConduitt.

In West Francia, Charles the Bald rules, and mints. Here is a temple type denier from Paris.

West Francia, 840-864, 1 denier. King Charles the Bald, mint Paris. Silver, 1.69 g, 21 mm. Roberts 1313.

Obverse: CARLVS REX FR (Kar[o]lus Rex Francorum / Charles, King of the Franks).
Reverse: PARISII CIVITAS (City of Paris).



Paris is a lovely city. I am sure my ancestor , the viking Ragnar Lodbroke, who put Paris under siege in 845 AD, thought so too.
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 Posted 01/27/2023  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One more. This is Æthelred II's second reign.

Æthelred II Phase IIci Second Reign Styca, 843-850

Northumbria. Copper, 0.71g. +EDILRED REX. +EARDVVLF (moneyer Eardwulf) (S 868).
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 Posted 01/27/2023  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok very nice additions! We are up to seven coins posted for this decade. Let's wait until Sunday morning to drop back so that we can accommodate any additional coins from the 840s.
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 Posted 01/29/2023  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More of these for the 830s...

Wigmund was Archbishop of York sometime between 837 and 858. There are no links between his coins and regal issues so sequencing them is difficult, but they end by the time his moneyer Coenred appears on Redwulf's coins.

Archbishop Wigmund Styca, 837-846

York. Copper, 1.05g. Central cross; VIGMVND. Rosette of pellets; EDELHELM (moneyer Ethelhelm/Aethelhelm) (S 870).
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