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2009 Lp3 Reverse Die Gouge?

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 Posted 11/13/2011  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Not sure about the nose. I am trying to find another LP3 to compare with.Thanks again,
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 Posted 11/14/2011  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
There are hundreds of DDRs for these 2009 cents, that's what it looks like to me.
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 Posted 11/14/2011  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I would hang onto this one. Keep an eye out for more of them. There maybe more of them in your area.
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 Posted 11/15/2011  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
I like it! I have started looking at them now! Are you near Mississippi? lol
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 Posted 11/15/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Nope Michigan.
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 Posted 11/16/2011  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
I plan on getting a few boxes of cents when I am home in Indiana...Tired of getting 75-85% D mint marks...I want more Phillys! And its kinda weird...I am a 24 hour drive from Denver...and only 14 from Philly...you would think I would have more Phillies down here.

Anyways...really cool find
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 Posted 04/27/2016  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I have now found about 10 of them. Still trying to find out what it is and the value. DDR? Die gouge? Value?
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 Posted 04/27/2016  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
Interesting!!

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 Posted 04/27/2016  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Has anyone else found any?
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 Posted 04/27/2016  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
One alternative could be to send it to CONECA. If it turns out to be a DDR, they might want to publish it - or allow you to publish it.

Here is a link:

http://conecaonline.org/content/con...nations.html
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 Posted 04/27/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I see this is an older thread. ((Posted 11/13/2011) But John1 was its author. So he is still around. But thinking on this a bit, nothing is actually copied. The die may have been altered a bit on that edge of the device making the coins now showing what were are seeing.
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There may have been a clash that was polished out that affected those areas. (nose and side of top of building) You can see the same color on the overlay in those areas. Also not the area affected is taller than the side of the top of the building on the left side. The next area runs straight above that area of the building does not curve like hub doubling would make if it were a doubled die. The nose is also the same color and may have been enlarged by the isolated die polishing. The top of the hair also looks affected. So I'm leaning more to die polishing/abrasion as affected the die when these coins struck.
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 Posted 04/27/2016  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
So, I guess that if this is a clash, the die would have been in about a 45 degree rotation?
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No it was in a normal position. They tired to remove the clash lines and widened out that side of the building a bit. (removed part of the field in that area) thus it looks wider there with the fields isolated to remove a clash. It may have been an issue with Feeder Finger Damage or a dropped die on that area. But the end result is, the fields were altered in those areas make the top of the building larger and the nose and hair appear to be altered.
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A normal dome has 7 supporting columns. This one appears to have 8 or maybe even 9 supporting columns. I guess I am just not understanding correctly...so the polishing dug so heavily into the field alongside the column on the left - - - enough to create 1 or 2 extra columns? Seems very strange, but I guess it is possible (?)
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 Posted 04/27/2016  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I see no evidence of intentional die abrasion. The two "spikes" look like two parallel die gouges. Since they extend upward beyond the cupola and are thicker than any column, it's difficult to see how this could be a doubled die. Still, since they parallel the columns of cupola, you should submit the coin to a die variety expert to see if it is a doubled die.
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