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I just do not like these coins
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What ever one thinks of the tokens produced by Mr. Carr, this one is of extremely poor quality.
It looks like a sand casting.
No one should have any trouble realizing it is not a real coin.
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No one should have any trouble realizing it is not a real coin. Not so! First, Carr's products are real coins; actually, defaced coins. Also, I'm having fun seeing how collectors and dealers react to seeing this coin! I recently purchased one of these to add to my "odd & unusual" collection. Just for fun, I took it to a coin show and have shown it to a few, very knowledgeable collectors and dealers, guys who buy and sell coins worth in the thousands of dollars. I simply handed it to them, saying that I thought it was a nice, type coin. Only one-in-five has so far nailed it. Of the two that were skeptical of its being genuine, neither one of them ruled out the impossible date! It was the surface that they questioned. Note that this IS a genuine coin that was over-struck by Carr. Also note that it is apparently legal to do this as noted by Carr on his website; this, contrary to what some CCF members have contested my writing in similar threads ... those about defacing coins. Like it or not, this is one of those collectible coins that pushes the limits and challenges our thinking.  |
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Carr's products are real coins; actually, defaced coins Excellent point....could not agree more... For some reason Carr's art can be quite polarizing...love him or hate him...one must admit his works are very cool! |
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I very much enjoy watching the membership get apoplectic over Carr's work. Get a grip, folks.  |
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What is the logic behind the market for these "coins"? From Carr's point of view - he makes money doing it and enjoys what he is doing. From my point of view - as a kid I always had dreams of finding rare coins that were rare b/c no one had ever seen one. Its fun to see some of the things I dreamed about as a kid be a real coin in hand. Knowing the fantasy coin is not really a rare find puts no damper on my enjoyment. I also like the idea that (agreed, an assumption here) the 31S I got from him was most likely stamped over a less than desirable SLQ (perhaps dateless)? I know if it was me, I would be trying to maximize profits so I would probably do this and it would make me feel good keeping something from melt and giving it original beauty again. Quote:
I very much enjoy watching the membership get apoplectic over Carr's work. Get a grip, folks. Then you have folks like me who could care less what peer pressure says  hobby = funHow much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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most likely stamped over a less than desirable SLQ (perhaps dateless)? I would think so. Ironically, most dateless SLQ's are pre-1924, not the '24-up recessed date style followed in this phantom '31-S. Quote:
It looks like a sand casting. My picture is a scan. It has nice luster & cartwheel in hand. Quote:
Carr's products are real coins; actually, defaced coins. I would say a re-strike on both sides is well beyond a "defacement". To me, it's a "re-strike on a real planchet". My dream "fantasy" SLQ would be a 1916-D, but Daniel Carr is wise to stick to entire years without any official issues of the particular type (such as his 1964 Peace, 1975 Ike, 1931 SLQ). He could do a 1933 Buffalo nickel - Mercury dime - Washington quarter - Peace dollar set! (too bad the '33-S Walker exists, ha ha)   Edited by DNA
05/20/2012 7:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I would say a re-strike on both sides is well beyond a "defacement" I believe that Carr's over-strike causes this once "coin of the realm" to no longer be worth face value, does it not? In order for this coin to be a re-strike, would it not have to once again be a mint product? Or, on the flip-side are we to now judge counterstamped coins as re-strikes? If you like, DNA, I'll compromise with you, and we can call this once "coin of the realm" a de-strike that's been re-faced!  |
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" De-strike".   |
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Count me as a fan and one who says get a grip to those that lose it. And I do believe he has done a 32 or 33 Buffalo. I pretty much want all of these pieces.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've seen his other coins and the quality is usually top notch. This one at first glance looks like it came from China, detail is lacking and not one of his better works. His 1964-D Peace dollars are amazing. |
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That '75 Ike is great also. That's why I am surprised the 31-S SLQ looks so poor.
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