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Bedrock of the Community
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 In light of the OP posting another double struck coin, I see two possibilities here- malfeasance by a mint worker creating the error himself by placing a 1981 cent in a press loaded with 1982 dies or someone is producing really good garage jobs with a set of soft dies. Such "manufactured" back-door errors are known, there was a 1964/1972 quarter posted here a few years ago-  However, garage jobs by far outnumber genuine errors that should be almost impossible to create without assistance. Purported errors such as this one absolutely must be examined in-hand for authentication purposes and certified by a Third Party Grader or recognized expert. Edited by biokemist6
07/24/2012 1:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe the cent posted in this thread is a soft-die altered piece. I do not believe it to be a genuine mint error - clandestine or not.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I tend to agree with biokemist6 except that it can hardly be an error if it were done purposely.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Interesting post with some of the best from CC giving opinions. Let's see what happens JB.
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Valued Member
United States
419 Posts |
It is really cool, even if it isn't a real error. I would buy one just to have a cool coin like that!
Alex
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New Member
United States
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Looking at the reverse it also appears to have a WAM and a CAM. It shouldn't have if made from 1981 and 1982 dies |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lol, somebody sure had fun making this one !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Valued Member
United States
419 Posts |
They're both WAMs, just some dirt makeing it look like a CAM.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 with Alex...both wide. |
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I'm from Canada and I didn't any local grader who can grade US coins. Can anyone suggest a good one either in Canada or the USA? Thanks |
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United States
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I would like to see the edge of the coin to see if there is a "partial collar" effect from forced re-entry into the collar. Given two different mints, the older date being over top the newer date and the strong 1982 date being in an area that should have been weak (flattened) by the the strike, my vote without being able to examine it in person is that its not a mint error.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:I'm from Canada and I didn't any local grader who can grade US coins. Can anyone suggest a good one either in Canada or the USA? Thanks Are you asking about grading or authenticating/attributing ? Coppercoins is an expert on varieties and Mike Diamond an expert on errors...both attribute coins for a small fee. |
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This morning I saw a specialist here in Montreal and he told me it was real coins, not a vise job. I'm now to the step of grading it. I will let you know when it's done.
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Pillar of the Community
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I would send it to Mike Diamond or CC before I would send it in to get graded. You might save yourself some money
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't believe this is a genuine double strike. Two different dates AND two different mints is implausible, but not impossible. However, the strongly tilted second strike (carrying the date 1982) is the straw that breaks the camels back.
This coin was not struck by soft dies. This is a well-executed counterfeit strike delivered by hardened, carefully fabricated dies. You see the sharp but incomplete penetration of first-strike details through the second strike. You only see that effect in genuine double strikes and sophisticated fakes.
This is the second dubious double strike presented by this individual.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Posted 07/23/2012 3:55 pm
