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Bedrock of the Community
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Nina, thought I'd post this link to a thread analyzing a fake, common date Morgan I deliberately bought from the Chinese place that was making them: Morgan: https://goccf.com/t/119357 |
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Earle, if these are indeed all fakes, we need to be even further on our guard. I remember this thread that you linked to, and one of the FIRST things I looked at was the reeds--they looked real! (Granted, I had no loupe with me, but my close-vision eyesight is 20/15--I do very well even without one, to the point that I've scared some people with my hand stitching when sewing.) The concavity in the fake reeds in your thread was not present.
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Being the optimist, I am crossing my fingers there are some silver rounds in there that will cover the cost of the gas.
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Pillar of the Community
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@Earl42, wonderful thread! This is exactly why, no matter how comfortable I get, I will continue to learn about my favorite series.
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Bedrock of the Community
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nina, thanks for clearing that up, I was thinking it was just the coins shown and did not know you didn't even have pictures up at first. I guess I should have read the original post more times than once before I respond, but I know I wont my mind starts racing when I read one part and have to start typing my opinion before I read further
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Thanks, Earl42. Those are amazing fakes! I often buy common date Morgans without closely examining them as I presumed common dates would not be faked. I'll be more careful. Thanks again.
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Bryan, it's okay. All three shown are from the "hoard" we received, although hardly representative (we've covered that some are obvious fakes--others, as I commented, are much more subtle, if they are in fact fake). I was in a rush to post and had to wait for my phone to finish downloading my pics.
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Was the weight of these pieces actually checked? Any legit silver round should weigh 1 Troy ounce (31.1 grams), or about 4.4 grams more than a Morgan dollar. A base metal fake of similar size will probably weigh 22 grams or so. |
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Jaobler: not by me. Yalanda took them home with her, but at my work we have no scale.
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As has been said several times, those are generic silver rounds. So they are not "fake". They are simply one ounce of silver and carry just that value. Quote:Bryan, there were $31, ranging from Peace dollars back to flowing bust dollars. Given that, it is obvious what you have here. Either someone stole a relatives collection, or they stole a strangers collection or they were just too ignorant to know the coins they got from grandpas will were worth a ton more than they thought. I have been lucky enough to walk into 7-11 soon after someone did the exact same thing and snag similar hordes at face. |
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Don, the problem is that a couple of the other coins (e.g. the "1900 Walking Liberty Dollar" and the 1804 flowing hair bust) are clearly counterfeit. So, while they may not all be counterfeit, the odds that even most of them are real seem . . . not likely.
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Pillar of the Community
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Counterfeits in a collection. Someone stealing them certainly would not know. There are plenty of collectors out there with unknown or even known counterfeits in their collections. I have absolutely no misgivings saying that the majority may well be just fine. But then, any opinion I or anyone else has is bunk as we can't see the other coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
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As has been said several times, those are generic silver rounds. So they are not "fake". They are simply one ounce of silver and carry just that value. But that design silver round has also been a popular target for chinese fakes. Yes there are chinese fakes of generic silver rounds too. |
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The silver trade unit is real and pretty common at coin shows.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Smokerider, given that one of these is, according to windchild, the "king of American coins," I will agree with your "known counterfeits" suggestion as being a totally possible option, maybe a "someday, when I take that fake out of its hole . . . . " kind of thing.
I know my boss said she'd talk to our local cop, but I haven't heard anything back. When I do I'll see if she found out what her BIL said.
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