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 Posted 11/29/2012  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
I dont get how in the article they claim stopping making dollar coins will save money when they cost less than a dollar to make


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I wonder if vending machines will ever take plastic,I know in my area parking meters already do !


Theres vending machines in the dc area that do, those are on the way.

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 Posted 11/29/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fromms2244 to your friends list
Everyone chases the all mighty dollar... unfortunately it might be the all mighty plastic everyone has to chases from now on. The day of the dollar and the coin are all but over. Hoard them all!!
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 Posted 11/30/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I wonder if vending machines will ever take plastic,I know in my area parking meters already do !
Theres vending machines in the dc area that do, those are on the way.
I have seen several vending machines that take debit/credit. I assume as each old one dies, its replacement will have the electronic payment option.
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 Posted 11/30/2012  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
This topic has been discussed quite a bit here and is just resurfacing.

More study is needed for those trying to make an educated decision of all the pros and cons as there are other issues behind this which do affect individuals on the street.

Eventually it would likely be more cost effective. But I believe it would take some time due to other circumstances such as higher cost handling, en masse, metal vs. paper. Amd, as also discussed earlier, the initial price increase on everything when the mindset becomes one of a dollar being only "pocket change." This, again was exactly what happened in Canada until the dollar became valueless enough to warrant a $2.00 coin being made.

Another thing to factor in is the amount of how much our dollar devalues over the years. By the time the savings are realized, the amount stated in today's money is not likely to be near near as large as it sounds now.

But until a generation passes where people have not had anything but dollar coins, I still believe (using Canada as a model) that the general populace will not like them. It took around that same amount of time for Canadians to start loving their Loonies. And the Loonie is now almost a national symbol of admiration for them.

So coercion by government eliminating paper will work. Its just a matter of whether you do not mind this kind of switch over. I come from, and miss, the days when the government - rightfully so- worked for us - not on us as they do nowadays.

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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
Denver's parking meters take coins (incl. small Dollars) and debit/credit cards.
Problem is, with surcharges, card users could pay up to $5 for the same parking time a coin user only paid $1 for.
When I plunk my $1 coin in, I know I paid $1, and only $1.

No $75 holds when you pay cash for gas!

Cash has no magnetic strip on the back to wear out or de-magnetize (and I'm often stuck waiting behind the people with worn-out cards).

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ALL coins and currency are doomed.

So what will happen then when a retailer's electronic payment system goes down?
Or your card's magnetic strip is unreadable?
What about all the surcharges?

Bullion coins (American Eagles, Maple Leafs, etc.) can't be replaced with electronic equivalents (thank God!).
"Allocation pools" and such are not really a substitute for full in-hand possession.

Now let's get those Dollar coins out of the vaults already!
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 Posted 12/01/2012  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list
Here they have done away with coin fed meters for parking and you have to phone up with credit cards. Its less convenient and discriminates against those who do not have a phone or a bank account.

Cash is still king, and I can't see that changing in the next 100 years (I just don't think that the public would tolerate such a breach of human rights as withdrawing their financial freedom to use cash) I personally use cash for 99% of my transactions and while cards/bank are good for some things I avoid plastic for all but major purchases.

If coins were withdrawn though it would not put the price up for collecting, it would go down... just look at stamps. Once a popular hobby it has lost its appeal and few newcomers to it means prices are down... the same would happen for numismatics.
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 Posted 12/01/2012  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I have seen several vending machines that take debit/credit. I assume as each old one dies, its replacement will have the electronic payment option.


Im sure its just a matter of time before they all have it. It always seemed like it would be easy to add that option, I cant count the number of times I've wished it took credit when it would be spitting my only 1 dollar bill back at me over and over again.


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Cash is still king, and I can't see that changing in the next 100 years (I just don't think that the public would tolerate such a breach of human rights as withdrawing their financial freedom to use cash) I personally use cash for 99% of my transactions and while cards/bank are good for some things I avoid plastic for all but major purchases.


For small purchases it probably is, but credit is used a lot. I do agree though I dont think well be seeing an all electronic monetary system for generations if ever. Personally I use the credit card for everything because of the cash back rewards, I always pay it off in full every month so its basically like getting a discount everywhere to me.
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 Posted 12/01/2012  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I wonder if vending machines will ever take plastic,I know in my area parking meters already do !

At gas stations in most areas, you just use a credit card at the pump now.
At a kids place called Enchanted Castle you have to chanage you money into their tokens since that is all their machines take.
In many places you can get change in bills by inserting a credit card into a machine. Sort of like a ATM only in more places lately.
A freind of mine has a small vending machine company and he is now looking into changing most or all his into cash or credit cards.
If you really look around you will see more and more machines that will take credit cards.
All forms of cash are just doomed. Why would anyone want to run all over the World trying to figure out the monitary system in other countries when a simple piece of plastic will do all that.
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 Posted 12/03/2012  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list
I don't see cash as being doomed as long as there remain questions about the reliability of the internet.

If all of my money lived electronically and the only way to access it was via a magnetic card and terminal then I would have been in more than just a little bit of trouble the week after Sandy hit.

Besides what we collect then? Magnetic cards? No thanks.

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 Posted 12/03/2012  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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No $75 holds when you pay cash for gas!
The hold for gas is only $1, not $75; at least for my gas stations and on my card. I always thought it was higher, but I discovered this when my online account started showing holds and pending transactions.

Regardless, your other points are valid.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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The hold for gas is only $1, not $75; at least for my gas stations and on my card. I always thought it was higher, but I discovered this when my online account started showing holds and pending transactions.

Not sure what this is about. I have a BOA Credit card that gives me 1% back on all purchases except 2% back on food and 3% back on gasoline. No holds, no annual fees, no nothing, just cash back. Fantastic reason not to use cash or any kind anymore. Another card I have gives me 2% back on everything but is only redeemable at their stores. Target Stores are advertising you save 5% on everything if you use their card. More and more places are giving such insetives making the usage of currency or coins a not so good idea anymore.
And as I've mentioned before, imagine going to other countries and never having to worry about what is the monitary system there.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Not sure what this is about.
The hold is what is used to make sure that the card is valid before dispensing the gasoline. I think larger holds were used in the past to make sure the card would not go over the credit limit, but I think all cards now will allow one to exceed their limit (for a hefty fee, of course).
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 Posted 12/04/2012  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list

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And as I've mentioned before, imagine going to other countries and never having to worry about what is the monitary system there.


When traveling abroad I've always preferred hard currency to using plastic. In an all electronic future I'm not to sure how comfortable I'm going to be giving up my bank account to a foreign system. Learning the local buying power is a key experience of traveling abroad.

IMHO the EU has shown just how problematic a multi-national currency is. I don't see a New World Order all plastic economy happening.

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I come from, and miss, the days when the government - rightfully so- worked for us - not on us as they do nowadays.


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 Posted 12/04/2012  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list
"What does it show about our country when we spend more to make each coin(penny and nickel) than their face value is actually worth and where both political sides argue about where to find extra cash to curb the budget "


I bring this up all the time.... Its a no brainer, too bad so is the government
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 Posted 12/05/2012  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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"What does it show about our country when we spend more to make each coin(penny and nickel) than their face value is actually worth and where both political sides argue about where to find extra cash to curb the budget "
Recently it was said on TV that Congressmen make about $175,000/year. And that does not include expense accounts and lots of other little things like all the parties paid for by taxes. So just why would or should they worry about the cost of making coins? Just how many people do you know that make that much money? And if you do know someone like that, ask them if they worry about the cost of making a penny.
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