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$1000 For A Die Chip?

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 Posted 12/11/2012  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AZTAMT to your friends list
I believe the 6 and the 9 are also upside down. The actual date of this coin is 1691, making it a rare and desirable piece.....:)
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 Posted 12/11/2012  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list
he had it posted earlier this week for 300$ I remember seeing it
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 Posted 12/11/2012  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collector67 to your friends list
Changed his name. I would be careful with this seller he says he restores coins also uses a wax substance to, what he calls preserve coins
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 Posted 12/12/2012  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
He has been on CCF a few times under different names, I think he's 'on vacation' now.
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 Posted 12/12/2012  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Just another coin listed as an attention getter.I believe the seller is neither stupid nor crooked,merely misguided.We've seen his rants here on this forum,his ambition is to become the King of Canadian varieties.
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 Posted 12/12/2012  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bm0ney to your friends list
I checked a circ. And pl. 1961 I have for chipped 1 after seeing this.
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 Posted 06/06/2013  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Here is one for the somewhat lower price of $10.50. The grade is a little lower, but the price is a snick lower than the $850 ask on the other one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/31068204085....m1555.l2649
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 Posted 06/09/2013  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jkol2369 to your friends list
Its removed I wanted to see it....
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 Posted 06/09/2013  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
The seller has relisted an AU50 coin under a different ebay listing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-10-c...em41737fbfd6
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06/09/2013 2:17 pm
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 Posted 06/10/2013  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Anyone have a link to one of his comments or posts in previous threads here? Are you talking about the same person here?
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 Posted 06/10/2013  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Yes we are talking about the same person here.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list
The discussion in this topic has been rather interesting. For disclosure I am a novice collector and generally my interest is in the last 25 years or so. It does interest me to see how things are described and priced in this crazy world of numismatics.

There does not seem to be anything misleading in the listing. There is full disclosure of the piece. It is described properly and there is no attempt to hide any facts. Kudos to this seller if they can get the price they are asking. Let the market decide. There are much bigger issues in my mind like when well known participants in the industry list an otherwise common uncirculated set as an error just because there is one coin in the set which is reversed in the package. The thing even sells for a 100% premium. Really what kind of numimatic value is there in that. But then again I may be a poor judge of these things.

This topic started with the question about why anyone would pay so much for a die chip. That seems to be a valid question and issues on the personal aspects of this seller just muddle the water.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Why would a coin be removed ....and "shifted" ...elsewhere?
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 Posted 06/11/2013  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list

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Why would a coin be removed ....and "shifted" ...elsewhere?


Again a disclosure that I neither know the entity that has listed this nor have I bought from them nor is there anything of interest for me to buy from them. However I must admit that I admire people who take pains to put good descriptions and images to share with everyone even if their purpose is to sell the coin or advertise or draw attention. Perhaps this is because I am still trying to find the right way to capture great images of my collection. Or perhaps I might never be able to get many of these beauties in my collection. So in that regard the e-bay listing in question in my neck of the woods is a great service to the hobby regardless of the price it is listed for.

On the issue at hand - One possibility why the listing was shifted was perhaps a result of this discussion. The original listing is gone but from what I see the original listing was:

"Canada 10 cents ERROR 1961 Upside down 1 UNIQUE unpublished"

The revised listing is:

"Canada 10 cents - ERROR - 1961 - Upside down date - RARE ZOELL H284a"

Clearly it seems that the listing detail has been improved. There is nothing to deceive here that I see.

The other listing shows as:

"Canada 1961 Dime 10 cents Zoell P284q "Upside Down 1" Error"

Is there an error in one of the e-bay listings or are there two varieties H284a, P284q? Perhaps that's what the difference might be.

I am just the messanger

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 Posted 06/11/2013  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
In the 1965 book, Zoell listed two: the H284q and the p284q. They have similar but different cracks. In 1970 he listed an FH284n: an inverted 7. The H284a may be from another edition. Unfortunately the later editions did not recapture all the varieties from the earlier editions.
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