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USB Microscope - Why Only 2 Mp?

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Formerly nancyc
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 Posted 02/21/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
Depending on the Brand of ‘Scope you have, you may be able to get greater magnification than you are currently achieving.

With my scope (Kaiser Baas) to get to the higher magnification, turn the focussing wheel slowly anti-clockwise, it will initially go way out of focus, but keep going and it will come back into focus, but it can be very difficult to keep it still and get the focus at this level of magnification. It's a good tip to have the exact part of the coin you want to magnify smack bang in the middle of the screen with the normal focus before you start to go to the high magnification.

Here are two images of the same coin, fist one with the regular focus, second with the magnification taken to it's upper limit, scope still touching the coin. I've used a 2000D Lincoln, identical to the coin in Fuzzy's picture above.

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No cropping on either image.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list
Well done Nancy- something I would not have thought of but a great result.!
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 Posted 02/21/2013  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list

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52Raymo, Fuzzy I think you can get better close ups. Go to your link for your scope and scroll down to reviews. The first review.


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nancyc, Depending on the Brand of ‘Scope you have, you may be able to get greater magnification than you are currently achieving.

thanks, I will play around with it later.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Nancy -thanks for posting. Since a 20X-200X can take pics like this, it might be what I am looking for. How many LEDs were on for the closeup of the MM pic? Is the button for taking the pic on the microscope itself and this is what makes it difficult to keep still when the pic is being taken? And I guess one more thing - would it be possible for you t post a pic of what the setup looks like when you are taking a closeup pic like that of the MM?


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 Posted 02/21/2013  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
I also just received the 20x-200x USB microscope cam ($26 Mambate) and the explination on how to get that close was already explained perfectly by Nancy... Mines the same way.
And I'll tell ya, for a cheap cam the images are unbelievably great!! I'm SOOO glad I bought his one and not a more expensive version!
For the lights it has a high, low and off setting for 8 led's... For that close I just leave them on.. From further away there's a glare of the lights. For the most part I leave them off and use the lights on my coin desk.. But it's all trial and error.
And there is a button on the cam, but for this zoomed in it will move the pic... You can also use your computer to "click" the button to take photos... (Also takes video's).
I just got mine this morning and it was super easy to set up/install, all of 3 minutes.. And super easy to use.. Definitely worth every penny of $26!!
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 Posted 02/21/2013  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
O, and for those super close ups the end of the scope is literally pressed against the coin. I put the base on a Whitman folder, (1/4 inch of so) and bend it down at an angle so it's flush with the coin.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
after taking your advice, here is a close-up of the D mint mark on the same coin above (I have to work on lighting)
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 Posted 02/22/2013  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
I was not able to get the lighting better. It was better when I looked at a dime.
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 Posted 02/22/2013  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Amazing info folks - thanks
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 Posted 02/22/2013  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
Earle, No I never use the button on the scope as my hands are not steady enough, just the mouse to click on the button in the software.

To show you my 'set up' I'd need another camera and another pair of hands.

The scope comes on a silly little stand and a cradle around the scope barrel that attaches to the stand. I removed both these useless bits and use it as a hand held.

I've made some very low-tech 'stands' for it out of plastic containers (white tupperware), cut a hole in the bottom for the barrel of the scope to fit snugly in, and I've made them out of 5 different height containers. The size of the coin dictates the height of the stand necessary to fit the entire coin in.

The largest current circulating Aussie coin is 50c, which is 31.51mm diameter and it fits nicely using the largest ‘stand' which is 150mm tall. As I was planning on using external lighting, I knew that White Tupperware would let light in and that's why I chose to use it, but it was too difficult for me to get the lighting right. The texture of the Tupperware sort of grips the barrel of the ‘scope, and I find it quite stable. I still hold the scope to keep it steady while using the other hand to click the mouse.

Other types of plastic would probably work as well as long as you are only using the built in LED's.

#1- Smallest, 55mm tall, only used for close ups of larger coins
#2 â€" Odd looking lid off a shaker-maker â€" 63mm tall
#3 â€" 86mm tall
#4 â€" Same as 3, Sometimes need to piggy back them to get a more suitable height.
#5 â€" 108 mm tal
#6 â€" 150mm tall.

They all stack up inside #6 and the footprint on the desk is about the same as a coffee mug.

My set up for the 2 images above was; place coin on pale piece of cardboard (offcut of a manilla folder), place barrel of scope gently on coin, focus, hold breath, and click with the mouse, breathe on, and repeated for 2nd image, but I took it to the maximum magnification setting.

There are 8 built in LED's, all were on, but not all the way on. Probably about 85-90%.

There's a bit more info in this thread:
https://goccf.com/t/111156
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 Posted 02/22/2013  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Thanks for the great, and detailed explanation - and also the even more detailed link. That's another aspect I like about our CCF family - you have already tread, and IMO, solved the problems I was anticipating. I frequent instructables.com where people share innovative ideas like this - you should post this there. This is also the site where found how to make a dirt cheap, but very good macro lens for my own camera that enables me to take pics of my coins (just not close enough yet!).
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 Posted 05/05/2013  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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Is the button for taking the pic on the microscope itself and this is what makes it difficult to keep still when the pic is being taken


Earle,

As you are probably aware of I have posted quite a few photos using my Mambate USB camera in this thread below,

https://goccf.com/t/88598

But in the case of every single photo(no exceptions) I have uploaded in this above thread (including externally-referenced URLs) using my USB camera, the Windows 7 snipping tool was the program of choice.

This stupid but short one(1)minute video gets to the point of the basic functionality of the snipping tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aOlRvRowI

When using this snipping tool the scene to be captured is actually frozen in place allowing the user to easily surround a coin, for example, eliminating any and all unwanted movements and then placing an appropriately-sized rectangle around the desired object.

I never ever once took a picture by using the Mambate USB Windows 7 software on my laptop(screen clicking) nor by pushing the red button on the USB camera itself: camera shaking eliminated and time saved: YAHOO

Excessive file size is usually a non-issue with the snipping tool and adjusting a photo's x-y dimensions is a snap by using only the mouse.

Try looking at C:\Windows\System32\SnippingTool.exe or C:\Windows\SnippingTool.exe to locate the program.

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 Posted 05/05/2013  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@mdpmedia

Thanks for taking the time to give me all that info. However, I switched to OS X about 5 years ago from Windows. Now I only use Windows for one graphics program I have.

I looked at the Windows 7 Snip Tool video just to see it. Its good to see Windows has integrated something like this into their system. I remember when I was using primarily Windows XP, I had to find a program like this to download and use. This kind of tool is, IMO, essential.

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I remember when I was using primarily Windows XP, I had to find a program like this to download and use. This kind of tool is, IMO, essential.


Ctrl-PrtScrn and Paint work also if one doesn't have Win7 for the Snip Tool.
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