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Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Lets make this a learning experience with a process of elimination.
1st item on the poll:
1. Why can't it be die polishing?
Note the area affected by the anomoly. The fields are what are polished. The area affected is the rim area. (There is die polishing on the center of the die and even some clash marks, but we are examining the rim area)
2. What is the purpose of die polishing?
Die polishing is used to remove clash marks.
3. What areas are usually polished on a die?
Just the areas affected by the clashing. Polishing removes some devices that are mid, so they only want to remove the clash marks.

The area in question is a rim issue and not a center die issue.
Edited by coop
07/12/2013 12:47 am
Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Next poll item:
Die Deterioration:

What do you see on a die that is wearing?
There is Die Deterioration in areas affecting the devices. But the area next to rim would still be strong normally with a normal strike.
What areas are affected?
The areas affected by Die Deterioration are the devices facing the rims first. Then the die flow is noted toward the rims on the field areas. But this cuts off at the edge of the die.
Why is this rim not affected by Die Deterioration?
The normal strike would help roll the rim higher toward the edge of the coin marking the rim rounded. On this coin this is not present. So it would not be a Die Deterioration issue.

So the rim area question is not answered yet.
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07/12/2013 12:53 am
Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Machine Doubling 2% 1 Votes
Ejection doubling 5% 2 Votes

The area in question is not affected by Machine Doubling or ejection doubling. This only affects the devices, not the area of the rim.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Coin damage 7% 3 Votes

There is a little coin damage on the rim on image 01 by the date area. But the overall view of the rim area is not affected by coin damage.

So what are we missing on this coin?
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 Posted 07/12/2013  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
Partial collar?
Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 07/12/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The outside rim is normal.
Rest in Peace
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 Posted 07/12/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
I'd like to change my answer to 'something else'.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list
Question: Was it a single cause or a combination of two or more?
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 Posted 07/12/2013  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Single cause. Ready for this?

Tapered (rolled thin) planchet.

The top of the head is slightly thinner and reverse on ONE CENT. The bottom of the bust and STATES has the rim formed in this area. Had me going for a while, but thought I would take you through the detective work.
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07/12/2013 9:30 pm
Pillar of the Community
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 Posted 07/13/2013  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list
Thanks coop for an interesting thread,not to mention a cool lesson.
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 Posted 07/13/2013  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
This was a great thread coop. Thanks.
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 Posted 07/13/2013  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list
Very informative thread. Please post more like it every ounce in a while.
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 Posted 07/13/2013  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinaki to your friends list
More similar type threads please!
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 Posted 07/13/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Thanks guys. I find something that stumps me for a time and I post it. I like to make things educational rather than give a yes or no answer.
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 Posted 07/14/2013  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Thanks for the lesson. It was fun.

(And now I want one of those....gotta keep looking.)
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