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You should have had all of those in one thread.
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The proof is in the pudding! Hopefully these pictures of my 1859 Pattern penny with shield and front and rest of side of TEAL will post!   
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This shows GIORGI on side of my TEAL and from my research lends authenticity to my coin. Any comments and or help appreciated!  |
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New Member
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I tried but hit submit thinking all pictures were uploaded but, alas they were not. Thanks for your help.
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United States
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I saw that you modified your post of the last picture. You could have modified the first one here to add the picture, or post replies on your thread.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Chinese "coin" is worth just scrap metal. Not genuine - it's a fantasy piece.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It appears to be a die match to the other fake in this thread https://goccf.com/t/113464Those who copy coins can easily put the appropriate edges on - as they can also forge bimetalic coins, real silver coins etc., and even put them in "authentic" US third party grading slabs. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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to CCF! |
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United States
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So you keep saying fake but, I have done some research and the fact that my coin has the GIORGI and symbols on coin edge lend some credibility as being the real RARE deal. Does any of the other coins have this on their edge?
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Forum Dad
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Sorry but please post these in the appropriate forums, they do not get the attention they deserve here.
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Sorry but please post these in the appropriate forums, they do not get the attention they deserve here. I meant to move this one when I posted my welcome and totally forgot.  That being said, I moved this welcome post to the 'World Coins and Commemoratives' forum for the proper attention.  |
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United States
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To Bacchus2, there is a difference in my coin one being the 2 emblems to the right and left of the 4 center figures on the back-they are differnt than that fake coin and also I bet the other coin does not have the GIORGI and symbols on the edge of the coin like mine. I believe mine may be the real rare deal,
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Valued Member
United States
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If you consider it to be real, I would send it in to be authenticated considering the value.
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Hoping for you that you coin is authentic ... although I admit to having lost the lead on which coin you are referring to with so many posted in one thread.  PCGS certification as suggested above is a great way to shut down the naysayers ... although after many years here at the CCF I trust the experts on their views. David |
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You realize that you are dealing with Chinese coins which are heavily counterfeited. Unless you really know what you are looking at, chances are you are much better off winning the lottery. First off, what is the weight of this coin? You should be looking at around 34 - 37g or so. Note that there's some variances in the definition of tael. Both of my Xinjiang tael coins come up to be at 34.4g. If it's significantly under this, i.e. under 31g, I think you can come up with the same conclusion that this cannot possibly be genuine. Secondly why does the details look crude? Fonts look just too thick as well as the dragon scales do not seem to be well defined. Here's one for example: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...40&lot=30382Edging doesn't matter - there's no reason why counterfeiters can't attempt to replicate the edges as well. Unfortunately, this will still not change my opinion of why this must be genuine. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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To Bacchus2, there is a difference in my coin one being the 2 emblems to the right and left of the 4 center figures on the back-they are differnt than that fake coin and also I bet the other coin does not have the GIORGI and symbols on the edge of the coin like mine. I believe mine may be the real rare deal You are correct - the reverse dies are different - I hadn't looked closely at them because of the poor picture. But the obverse dies look the same. If you look at the floretts either side (9 and 6 o'clock) they show exactly the same pattern - some petals are linked (on the left side) and one petal at 5 o'clock on the right florette has not developed in both. If you are 100% percent convinced yours is real then get a second opinion from someone who can see it in hand. But don't pay for it because you'll just be out money. |
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