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New Member
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Thanks for you suggestion about photobucket. I think to shrink it to upload took away from the image. As for cropping it I'm still learning photoshop as well. I really want to get good at this so I can image my collection. I tried a few graded ones in plastic and they all looked off and washed out. Too much glare.
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Moderator
 United States
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Both of your posted images are a nice start; let's get you up to speed with cropping and image sizing/hosting before we tweak the actual photographic process. We want first to see the images themselves in their best-possible light.
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New Member
 United States
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Here are a couple of new attempts that I have only cropped to the coin size. Not getting better but still trying. I hope it works...first attempt at Photobucket!  
Edited by Edamos 11/01/2013 10:33 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Edamos, I can't give any advise as your photos are already better than I post.If the Trade dollar photo looks anything like it does in hand that is a great photo.The devices on the obverse look like they are just sitting on the fields. That is a coin with personality. The others will be posting when they get the chance and you will be getting some great advise. regards coffeecup57
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
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I most likely should never have found this site. It is eating up all of my free time. I am learning to take what I hope are better coin images...but now with looking up VAM's, Photobucket and working on lighting, focus and attempting to image the coin as close to it looks in hand...hour after hour go by. Here is another attempt, but for some reason my shutter speed is always low. I will keep at it until it doesn't take half an hour per coin to get something I like! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Funny....I recently reclaimed my life back from this photo forum. It's bad enough to be obsessed with a hobby, but when 2 hobbies (photography and coins) collide, the obsession is exponential. I recently joined CPA, Coin Photography Anonymous, and haven't taken a pictures in 3 days. And thank God, I only have lousy equiptment....might not have survived if I had the good stuff. 
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 United States
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In truth, Edamos, I'm having a hard time coming up with any advice to give you. These are some tremendous images. The 1878-CC is exquisite. VAM-27, right? You've a nice feel for lighting, achieving excellent detail with no washout. The only possible improvement is larger images; I don't know if you've pushed your camera to its' closest-possible distance to the coin to make the images larger on the sensor, but if you could make a Morgan come out at 800px instead of the 500 currently achieved....they're a *little* small for accurate attribution.
This involves additional complexity with lighting, though.
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New Member
 United States
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VAM-27 is correct...good eye. I will try to move the coin closer to the camera. I'm moving all of my equipment from the basement to a first floor office with much better natural light coming in as well as better overhead lighting that I can easily change to any color bulb or type needed. Using small lights to highlight the coins tends to wash them out for me. So I figured this might help. I still take most of my shots at 1/8th second or slower. From everything I have read that is way to slow. Even with a sturdy tripod and a remote shutter release it should still be faster. So I'm assuming its not enough lighting. I keep the camera at f4-f8 and the iso I have moved from 100-400 to see if I could get a faster shutter speed but very little changes.
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The proof is in the pudding; 1/8 is obviously not a problem for your equipment. Don't sweat the exposure if the result pleases the eye. I should think going from f8/ISO100 would make a huge exposure difference from f4/ISO400, though; are you running in full Manual mode?
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New Member
 United States
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I'm running in A mode. Camera is only a couple of weeks old. This whole process is new. If I use manual mode what settings should I shoot for.
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New Member
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Pillar of the Community
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For a new lens, primarily it will come down to what are you going to photograph? What is your budget? Full coin or tiny details? Depending on the camera (full frame sensor or APS-C sized) and the diameter of the coin(s) that will give you a range of ratios to target. For example, if you were going to shoot the tail feathers of Morgans and money was no object, I might recommend building a rig around Cannon's 5:1 65mm manual fixed focus macro lens (yes, for no good reason I'm lusting after it). If you are going to shoot full frame Morgan dollars, then you are more looking at 1:3 and the power of that $1000 monster is wasted. Which is why the folks who hang out here and actually know what they are doing (as opposed to say myself) recommend repurposing the 75mm enlarger lenses. Beyond just not letting beautiful glass go to waste, it's just the right tool for the job.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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If you're using full Manual settings on your existing camera, shoot for something like this with the average coin you've been posting: ISO100, f/5.6 (I'd normally say f/8 but your camera should have sufficient depth of field at the wider aperture) and exposure of around 1/100. If 1/100 is too dark, ISO200 or possibly 400 will help, and you can always lengthen the exposure. That's just the point at which you might want to consider differing lighting solutions. Mind you, your results are already excellent. If you're doing a bespoke lens, and want a tethering solution, you want a Canon APS-C dSLR and Canon's 100mm Macro lens. It'll easily reach a coin the size of a Morgan, and with an 18MP Canon sensor it's capable of magnification like this:  With that said, if you're seriously thinking about upgrading your equipment, you need to read this thread first: https://goccf.com/t/158182
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New Member
 United States
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Now that is what I hope to achieve down the road. I would love to get that much detail and be able to get that close in an image. I will read the link you suggested. Thanks
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