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1883 O Morgan

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 Posted 11/11/2013  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
I'll tell you that $48 is a bit steep for this coin... I probably would pass at $28-$30... under that, I'd consider it. I'm a bit of a bargain hunter, though, so your mileage may differ. As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ClubMedka to your friends list
Thanks, I definitely am happy. I got the impression I overpaid, I deal a lot with used music equipment and vintage equipment and I just had that "feeling". But, I appreciate the input, as next time I go down to the shop, I will have some more tools in the shed. There is actually a few pawn shops here that have reasonable (for a pawn shop) pricing on some of their Morgan coins. The thing is, anytime something good comes in the shops, it is gone because other people in town know to look everyday. PCGS link is bookmarked, going to look through that everyday at different coins.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list

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Oh, I paid 46$ for this coin. I saw him get out a piece of paper (assuming it was the grey sheet) and he gave me a price of 48$. I figured it was good to support his local business as he did tell me a lot about his various coins and I took up some of his time. Probablly not the best deal, but I dont think the worst deal.


You may want to shop around a little to find a coin dealer that is both ethical on pricing/grading (not saying your local dealer isn't, we really don't know) and has the quality/type of coins that you want to add to your collection. Start with small purchases to see how they treat you. Post your purchases here for feedback, you're going to make mistakes as in any new hobby, the key is to learn from those mistakes and become a better numismatist because of them.

When you find a good honest dealer stick with them, dealers will often give regulars substantial discounts and sometimes give them first choice of the new stuff that comes into the shop.

NumisMedia is another useful site. Not quite as good as the Greysheet but it is free! Remember that no price guide is the end all be all, they are just guides and premium quality coins will likely be more expensive than the prices listed.
http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml

Looks like you are off to a good start but take it slow and make sure to research significant purchases before you make them.
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11/11/2013 11:06 pm
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
The obverse appears to be MS61 from the photo. The actual grade could be higher (MS62)if the marks on the cheek are not as distracting as they appear. Have you figured out what VAM it is?
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11/11/2013 11:05 pm
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ClubMedka to your friends list
That's great advice on looking for the right dealer and the link to numismedia. I will really do some more research on what I am looking for next. Even though Bakersfield is a big city, there aren't many coin shops in town. Lot's of antique and pawn shops however. But I feel like there is a shop in vicinity (LA, Fresno, Monterey) that I will evetually find and settle in with. I'm going to keep purchases pretty light and focus more on commons and uncommon coins for the first year or so. I think Fade was right, the angled shot really shows the worst of the marking. When held, I don't see the marks as severe, but there are some there. I have been reading about VAM. I have not figured out what VAM it is, there is a lot of information to process within that area! If you see anything on the coin that you cant tell from the picture, let me know and I will do my best to describe/re-shoot picture.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
You might also want to consider coin shows in your area as well. Perhaps some of the Morgan dollar specialists here can suggest a few good dealers that set up at area coin shows.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Larry Shapiro is out in LA, he's one of THE Morgan guys in the business. I'm sure he sets up at local shows.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ClubMedka to your friends list
I will keep my eyes peeled, hopefully a show surfaces near here before Christmas. I doubt there is a local coin show annually here.... Unless it is camping/ RV, guns, or menudo cook offs.... the fairgrounds aren't open that much. But I will have to look in LA, bound to be a show there.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
I'll go with MS-62.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I don't think you got particularly beaten about the head at $46 for this coin. Maybe a twelve-pack's worth.
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 Posted 11/14/2013  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Hey OP, go to this show coming up;

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Looks like Larry Shapiro is going, so if you wanna see some nice Morgans, I'm sure he'll be happy to help ya around time provided.

EDIT: I inserted a link to the PCGS forums, which are a FANTASTIC resource when used correctly, but I always forget that this site doesn't allow linking to their forums for whatever reason. Here's a post on a dealers page I found with some info about it;

http://www.joelscoins.com/shows.htm
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11/14/2013 01:21 am
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 Posted 11/14/2013  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
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11/14/2013 01:36 am
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 Posted 11/14/2013  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
This coin appears to have been circulated. My opinion is AU53/55
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 Posted 11/14/2013  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'd say this Morgan is a market slider or low end MS coin around 60/61/62 probably. Also keep an eye peeled for Gus Tiso he does a lot of shows in So Cal and has a TON of dollars in all price ranges, whenever I see him at a show he always ends up taking some of my money home with him! There are a lot of coin shows in SoCal and lots of dollar dealers too. You might even get into VAMs too!

Check the site http://www.coinshows.com there is a show coming up in Ontario, CA, not too far from Bakersfield. There is always Long Beach (an amazingly large show, has been downgraded the past few years, but is slowly returning to the top of the shows again). Fresno also has some good shows.
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11/14/2013 03:18 am
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 Posted 11/14/2013  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ClubMedka to your friends list
Well a twelve pack of Natural Light or Sierra Nevada Torpedos? I'm wondering now! ;) Fade, I will check out those forums as well as take a look at the link. Westcoin, thanks for the link I am going to bookmark it after I reply. I just have to plan a trip it sounds like, and make sure I have some cash to spend. I am looking at getting some slabbed Morgans in the near future, and my GF visited a friend of mine that's a manager in a pawn shop and put two slabbed coins on layaway so Santa has something for me too! But a coin show in Long Beach, that's ideal!
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