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I Just Can't Understand Why..

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 Posted 11/29/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list
Maybe he will see this thread and answer for himself, cjspearsdog is a member here at CCF and was active in another thread earlier today.
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 Posted 11/29/2013  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
Ah, I said in my first post, I wasn't picking on this seller. I don't want to get into a fight with another CCF member. I am questioning the thought and expense behind doing this kind of thing.

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 Posted 11/29/2013  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
And I just want to clarify..I meant the coin shows on tv; not cjspearsdog.
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 Posted 11/29/2013  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list
Stampvirgin, that is a good question. I would also like to know the thought behind this and how it could be profitable with the expense of getting it slabbed.

Maybe he didn't send it in, he could have bought it cheaply already slabbed and is just re-selling.
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 Posted 11/29/2013  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
They dont get sent in with the intention of getting 69s, they get sent in chasing 70s. If you send enough usually the 70s will pay for everything and the 69s still need to get unloaded. Its the 70s that pay the bills for the moderns though.

If you get them graded in bulk which that one was by the special label on it, its also significantly cheaper than normal grading costs. Thats how those coins usually end up in slabs from there theyll probably pass through several hands and only he can answer how he actually got that one.

Its rather silly though to say because somethings modern they arent worthy of being graded.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
denco7,

"Why would anyone pay grading fees to grade a penny ? To make it worth $30 plus one cent ?"

No, I had slabbed a 1909-s VDB and a 1914-D because both are heavily altered/counterfeited.
Used ANACS simply to get them authenticated.

It is the 'modern perfection' coins in plastic that drive me nuts.

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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
Older, more valuable coins I can understand, like a 1909 VBD, or a 37 Jefferson nickel. But a coin from within the last 20 years?
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 Posted 11/30/2013  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I agree with basebal21, they are looking to get 70's and make money on them.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
My friend showed me parts of his coin collection.. He has every proof set from 1937 to 1969.
First set is graded/slabbed all 65
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 Posted 11/30/2013  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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He has every proof set from 1937 to 1969.
First set is graded/slabbed all 65


And look at the years you listed that would fall into.

Would you consider a 1972 type 2 MS 65 Ike to be worthy of grading? Its a approximately a 1500 dollar coin.

Or a 2007 missing edge lettering washington Presidential dollar which is over 1k in MS 68.

The best advice would really be to browse around http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml for a bit and youll see approximate values of what people are trying to get when things are sent in.

Theres not one answer to what grade they want if youre going to lump your friends proof years in with ultra moderns.

Really though whether the coin was made in 2012 or 1912 neither coin is being made anymore. Theres plenty of 1800s coins that cost less than 2007 coins in certain grades. Age just makes it less likely high end examples had survived and that part of the mintage had been destroyed over time. Theres ancient coins with miniscule survival rates that sell for far less than things that were minted in the millions. Its all about supply and demand.

I personally like both and though I prefer older coins I do love a good Ike and many others. Whether you mean to or not its coming off a bit snobby with the only 20 years old stuff. Its one thing to tell people they can find something cheaper, but to say something doesn't have value because its modern or imply its not worthy of collecting is another.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
No, didn't mean to come off snobby..

Just didn't understand the thought behind sending in a golden dollar for grading...
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 Posted 11/30/2013  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
For the ultra moderns like the golden dollars any time you see a 69 the submitter was looking for a 70 with proofs and not intended for circulation coins. Theres a few exceptions but theyre few and far between.

Any time you see the special labels on them like the ebay listing you linked its safe to assume it was part of a bulk submission of a 100 coins or more where the 70s will pay for all of them and anything the 69s bring in is a bonus.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
A 70 Presidential dollar is worth that much of a premium?
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 Posted 11/30/2013  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Depending on which one yea. They sell for 20+ usually. Bulk grading is 12 dollars a coin max, and if you a huge submitter likely less than that. So 20 bucks is a profit. They dont make a company but if you can make some on it and it brings people to your site or store its worth it. Some sell for closer to 50 too.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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No, I had slabbed a 1909-s VDB and a 1914-D because both are heavily altered/counterfeited.Used ANACS simply to get them authenticated


Ha ....... ha........so your using the two absolute rarest circulating pennies, to make your point as to why someone would submit common coins for grading ?

A collector is a collector, everyone collects what they like. Some collect lowballs, some collect sliders and some want they best example of what they collect. My kids and I have complete sets of State Quarters from circulation, as well as an up to date collection of ATB's from circulation. When the Presidential dollars came out , we bought our albums and started our next set from circulation.UUnfortunately we know what happened to that. So we switched our focus and decided to collect the best of the best proofs instead. We haven't got our 2013 PF70's yet, but we have all the others. A PCGS/NGC proof presidential set is surprisingly hard to find and not cheap.
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