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 Posted 12/31/2013  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainbow1218 to your friends list
Thank you for the quick replies!

If one has a mix, then how would someone know there is a graded slab associated with the set? Or better yet, how does one fill the holes in the album? Duplicates or junk coin?
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 Posted 12/31/2013  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
for me, I put small labels in the place holder saying "In Slab" or something like that.

I know of one hole I will never fill (1895 Morgan dollar), so I filled it with a copper bullion piece. Some put error coins in holes, some put tokens, and some just leave that hole unfilled.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
You can do whatever you wish. A quick-and-simple solution would be to take a junk coin or a cheap common coin you have duplicates of, mark it in some fashion (like writing " TPG" on it in marker pen) and insert that into the "hole". If vandalizing coins gives you the shivers, then you could cut out a piece of paper or cardboard to do the same thing.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Welcome to Coin Community. Ain't no "silly" questions except the ones unasked.


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Is set considered complete if one has a mix of coins housed in albums and in slabs?


Build what works for you. You define the "set." Not us. No rule exists. Yes, if you build a "date/mint mark' set, it has to include all the dates and mint marks, but that's where it ends. The people who disagree with this - and there will be some - are those who are building the set the way they envision it. Which is also cool, because it supports my point.

You define "quality." Nobody else. It's the fundamental beauty of numismatics.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
to CCF!. IMO, the set is just as important as the coin that make it up. Whats the point of having a set where 15/20 dates are in the album and 5 dates from here and there are in slabs housed elsewhere? I personally, never crack a coin out of a slab unless absolutely necessary. What you do is up to you..
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 Posted 12/31/2013  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I used to put a photo of a coin (life sized) pasted onto cardboard, and cut out into my albums for the slabbed ones or coins I kept in my safe deposit vault. Back before I photographed my own coins, so I used pictures from auction catalogs. Did the same thing when I collected US Stamps.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skyshark124 to your friends list

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For me, I consider a set complete if there are some in albums and in slabs. I don't feel the need or want to crack my 1922 no D out of its slab to call my Lincoln cents complete. Others have different opinions of what "complete" means to them. That's what is great about collecting: if you are happy, that's what really counts.


I agree with this. For instance, while some consider the 1922 no "D" part of the Lincoln Cent set, I consider it an error coin and do not count it as needed for a complete set (which is why I have a complete set...if I counted this coin, I would be one short, but I am not worried about it). A set is what you make of it. Some collect by date, some by mint, some varieties and mints, etc. My sets do not include proofs or error coins (though I am going to complete a separate cent asset of proofs only). It's whatever you want it to be. As long as you call it a completed set, it's a completed set, since it meets your criteria.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I don't feel the need or want to crack my 1922 no D out of its slab to call my Lincoln cents complete. Others have different opinions ...
I am one of the others. Crack-a-lacka!

I agree with the majority, do whatever makes you feel happiest. Do not worry if you do not know what that is now, you will know it soon enough. Regardless of what you decide, do not let anyone tell you that you are wrong.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list
If a person had a collection of say 80 coins completing a set and 77 were in the album, and 3 slabbed; unless you were storing those three in safe, why wouldn't you crack those three open and put them in the album?
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 Posted 12/31/2013  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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why wouldn't you crack those three open and put them in the album?


Because you lose money doing that. Youll have to get a 16D merc reslabbed to sell if you dont want to sell it for pennies on the dollar. If its a really high grade coin youll probably lose a point or two pushing it in and out of the album and sliding the plastic covers over it.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I would get the common dates in an album and the keys in a slab. Then I would make a note of it in the album like Fuzzy said.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
To each his own. However, I collect coins, not plastic. I see no reason to keep a coin in a slab. If on the other hand a person constantly thinks of eventually selling their coins, then of course keeping them in a slab is benificial. And as to the type of Album, I'll still keep with Whitman. Yes Dansco looks nice but then just how many people that have them put them out on display. Almost all keep them hidden so who cares what the Album cover looks like? And too I still hate the empty slots at the end of most Dasnso Albums. Whitman at least takes the time to plan on how many coins fill a page.

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I am most interested in building a quality set versus filling the holes.

That is what many do when they plan on eventually selling off everything. If you plan on keeping everything, makes little difference where and how they are kept. I never sell nor plan on selling a coin so I never keep them in a slab.
Just my way of collecting.
Ome more thing is there are no silly nor dumb questions when it comes to a hobby. Any hobby. It is something for each person to do as they wish which is why a hobby should be and is fun.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list
I am working on my 1935-1986 Canadian Dollar set. I am getting there but will buy at least three graded coins by time I am done. The main reasons are that I don't trust my eye enough to grading and I worry a little about forgeries. One of those coins will cost me a bunch being a 1948 Canadian Silver Dollar. I probably won't go higher than MS60 on these and will likely put them in my Gardmaster album with the rest of my Silver Dollars. I'll take pictures of the coins in their enclosures first. When I die and my family members decide they don't want to do coins they will at least know the original condition and can pay to reassess them if they wish. My collection is to enjoy in the way I will enjoy it most and that is not having it split up.

On the other hand, If I were buying for investment or with the idea of a quick turnaround or upgrade, I would keep the coin in its enclosure.
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 Posted 01/01/2014  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list
I don' t own any key dates major enough to be purchased slabbed, but I did put an XF 1921 Morgan in the 1895 slot in my Dansco. It's one of four that my dad gave me (two are Peace dollars, and the other Morgan is in the 1921-S slot.) It needed a home.

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 Posted 01/01/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list
OP, being a week in, I think you are smart buying TPG coins or coins from a LCS you trust. You're also smart by looking for quality. It sounds like you will have a foundation for a very nice set. Many newbies make a mistake by buying poor quality just to fill a hole in an album. This is a mistake and they will likely lose money.

When I first started out I bought some TPG coins and broke them out of their slab so I could keep them in the same 2x2 album as my other coins. Now, I wish I had never done that because, as my collection grew, my better more expensive coins are the ones in the slab. I started a Dansco album this year just so a I could display my common date and duplicate coins. As others stated, there are no rules in this game and it's your hobby. Do as you wish. I would just caution to not be so quick to break them out unless you are absolutely sure you want to keep the coin for the long haul. TPG coins are easier to sell IMO vs. unslabbed ones, especially for some series like Trade dollars, Liberty Seated dollars, etc.
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