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1948 Dollar - You Versus NNC

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 Posted 01/15/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Amazing thing is this seller seems to get a really good price for his sales even though they are self slabs.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
Is it really a 65 in anyone else's opinion? I see a few nicks, like the top of the hair and behind the neck.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Just going by the hair, eyebrow, cheekbone, literally dozens of visible marks, and past experience with a slabbed coin from this seller, it wouldn't surprise me if in-hand it's not above EF-40. But somebody is likely to believe they got a $19000 coin for $1500...
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 Posted 01/15/2014  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
This seller carefully dances around ebay's listing rules.
Bidders might get clued in if they only read the seller's negs.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list
Even if I knew this were EF grade I would not want to bid near EF price because I don't want to support the trickery. At some point I want to buy a 1948 dollar that is graded but not NNC.
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 Posted 01/19/2014  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
$2429, 20 bids. Someone paid almost MS63 retail. There are multiple buy it now graded 60-62 by PCGS, NCG and ICCS for less $... can't fathom ebay but clearly this seller is successful at it.
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 Posted 01/19/2014  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Ouch. Someone's in for a rude surprise!
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 Posted 01/19/2014  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list
Same seller
1889-CC Morgan dollar "MS-63" = $6,800
59 bids

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-MOR...380746750921

He knows his job...
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01/19/2014 2:55 pm
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 Posted 01/19/2014  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I really don't understand how this seller manages to picture his "graded" holders in his auctions--isn't that against ebay rules?
I consider Centsles the "Keyser Soze" of ebay coin sellers--he manages to dodge every bullet and stay alive. Watch out, collectors!
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 Posted 01/19/2014  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EastVanRob to your friends list
Yet another senseless, er, centsles transaction.
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 Posted 01/20/2014  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
What are the tells that this coin has been cleaned... when I was trying to look at the coin I couldn't see any abbrasions... what else gives a clue that this coin has been cleaned?
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 Posted 01/20/2014  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list
The luster looks "disturbed" that's how you can tell it's been cleaned....it's hard to describe, but if you were to see a cleaned coin vs non cleaned coin in person, you would see the difference. The clean coin may appear "bright" but it's dull compared to the natural silver luster after minting....also camera lighting may affect the appearance.
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 Posted 01/20/2014  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
If I were to guess based on what I see...it would be the flat, mottled luster and the signs of re-toning--dipped?

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 Posted 01/20/2014  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list
Abrasions are usually only evident on harshly cleaned coins. When you look at a 66 year old coin and it has no original patina it would be because of one of two possibility's. Either the coin has been cared for perfectly for the last 66 years, or, the surfaces have been altered in some manner. Now you can decide which possibility is more likely. With experience you will almost always be able to instantly detect if a coins surfaces have been altered or not, and this will help with your buying decisions and the coins value.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
This is one of the oldest and largest ebay seller, if this coin is remotely near a ms65, it would be in a PCGS, NGC, slab and around 10000.00
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