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Coin World sent out weekly update stating that the gold will be released physically on August 5th at the ANA World's Fair of Money in Rosemont IL. Three quarter ounce. 1964 higher relief obverse. Dual dated. Also 2 special sets with various mint marks and finishes. A 4 coin set and a 2 coin set. The 4 coin set will not be released at Rosemont (Proof, Rev Proof, Enhanced Uncirc, Uncirc). Other details as to when regular ordering is to begin, mintage limits (if any) etc. not yet released.
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I'm buying all the mint's Kennedy offerings. Not thinking of the potential ownership down the road but just because I like the Kennedy Coin.
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I'm in for the whole shootin' match too! So far I have five of the two-piece clad sets and total six of the gold Kennedys.
Best Regards,
George
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Quote: Given our extensive Kennedy half Registry Sets I wonder how the various issues will fit, or not, into the current set definitions. Best Regards, George George, Considering that PCGS does not include the 1964 Accented Hair Proof or the 1998 S silver Mattie Finish in the Basic Set(s) but in the Major Variety Set(s), I imagine PCGS will treat the new issues of 2014 in the same manor. Personally, I would like PCGS to consider the two coin (P & D) "50th Anniversary Kennedy half dollar Uncirculated Coin Set" treated as a Type 2 and the coins found in regular Mint Sets, rolls and bags treated as Type 1 and require them both in the Basic Set. The 1964 â€" 2014 W Gold Kennedy half dollar, I have mixed feeling regarding inclusion in the PCGS Registry. I ordered one on August 5th and it arrived last week. The coin is simply gorgeous and I will probably order some more before the year is over. Some folks collect Kennedy half dollars not just because they like the design but because they are affordable. If PCGS makes the gold half dollar part of the Registry set(s), that might discourage some collectors from continuing or collecting the series. Right now, I'm leaning towards the idea of PCGS having two set(s) in the Registry for those sets which the gold Proof coin would fit; one with the gold and the other set without the gold (this way the individual collector can decide how they want to collect the series). Congratulations on getting the "Best of the Registry" award this year at PCGS on your set "Kennedy Half Dollars Complete Variety Set, Circulation Strikes (1964 â€" Present"). I realize that your set reflects the many years of dedication in searching for and funds tied up to put together a set of this magnitude, job well done. JMHO on the subject, Tim |
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Thanks for your note, Tim. I actually tied with another Top Notch set that you know well, so the congratulations should be shared. And I think the only plaque I am getting is on my teeth. Oh well. I don't disagree with your sentiments regarding inclusion or not of the gold Kennedys from the Registry Sets, but I'm not sure that PCGS has ever been that democratic in their approach to set definitions. I guess we shall see with time. The gold Kennedys are certainly outliers: I can't think of another modern parallel to a gold striking of a series that was previously all silver ... I suppose way back when, the introduction of the 1915-S Pan Pac fifties to the commemorative series, which was previously either silver half dollars or gold dollars, was somewhat similar. Just my opinion as well, and you know what they say about those ... Best Regards,  George |
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Quote:
The gold Kennedys are certainly outliers: I can't think of another modern parallel to a gold striking of a series that was previously all silver ... I suppose way back when, the introduction of the 1915-S Pan Pac fifties to the commemorative series, which was previously either silver half dollars or gold dollars, was somewhat similar. George, With the early commemorative 1915 S Pan - Pac coins, at least the Mint changed the design, size and denomination between the silver and gold pieces. The Norse Medals the Mint kept the same design; silver was thin or thick plus a gold issue. The 1922 Grant the Mint kept the same design for the gold as the silver but the size and denominations were different. Rumor has it that the Mint produces some 2000 Sac dollars with the base metal being gold (not just the color) but I noticed that those are not required in the Registry Set(s). Yes, I really like the Kennedy series and have been know to put my money were my mouth is on the subject. But I really think the US Mint "messed up" on this one with the gold half dollar. The US Mint should have treated the gold Kennedy the same way they did with the 1922 Grant commemorative by having the gold version a different size and denomination. I mean for three quarter of an ounce of gold, it should have been either a ‘TEN DOLLAR' or 'FIFTEEN DOLLAR' face value coin. If the US Mint wanted to make a 'HALF DOLLAR' face value Kennedy coin out of gold then it should have been half the size of the early ‘ONE DOLLAR' gold coins. What is the US Mint going to do in 2017 with the 100 anniversary of JFK'S birth coming up, make a ‘HALF DOLLAR' out of platinum or maybe have a diamond embedded in the back of the head denoting the entry wound of one of the fatal shots? Where does the US Mint draw the line? Where do collectors draw the line? I bought one of the gold Kennedy half dollars the first day the US Mint sold them and it sure is pretty, before the year is over I may buy another one or two of them but in my opinion these coins are really pushing the envelope on what should be included in a complete collection of the series. Again, just my humble opinion on the subject, Tim Edited by taclough
08/29/2014 12:08 am
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Good points all, Tim. It is getting weird at the Mint. I wonder if the Washington quarter folks are having trouble pushing those five-ounce pure-silver America the Beautiful hockey pucks into their album holes as well, denomination 25 cents.  I too thought the proper denomination (face value) for the gold Kennedy would be much higher. Best Regards, George |
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Quote: It is getting weird at the Mint. I wonder if the Washington quarter folks are having trouble pushing those five-ounce pure-silver America the Beautiful hockey pucks into their album holes as well, denomination 25 cents. I too thought the proper denomination (face value) for the gold Kennedy would be much higher. George, That is a great point, I never thought about it but you are 100 percent correct. Those five ounce pucks are the same design and denomination as the other " Washington quarter Commemorative Series" coins. If PCGS puts the gold Kennedy half dollar into the competitive sets then I will have to give B.J. or Cosetta Robbins a call and ask about the consistency of inclusion based on the "America the Beautiful Hockey Pucks". Right now, I'm thinking the best way for PCGS to handle the 1964 - - " 2014 W gold Proof Kennedy half dollar in the Registry set(s) is to treat it the same way that NGC treats the Norse - - " American Medal in the "1892 - - " 1954 Complete Silver Commemoratives Set" by having a slot in the set for the coin / medal but no points. This way the individual collector can decide whether or not to include the gold coin in their set(s) with no penalty if they decide not too. It will be interesting to see how PCGS handles this situation. Tim Edited by taclough
08/29/2014 11:40 pm
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 Got mine today. Beautiful coin and packed in a really nice box but for the price it should be. If I do submit it to a grading company PCGS or NPG I have no reservations that it should be a 70 Ultra Cameo thats how good it looks and worse case 69 Ultra Cameo. Hopefully I can keep it in the mint packaging and buy a slabbed one later on at a reasonable price. I paid 1282.45 from the mint. |
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I've bought all the mint's 2014 offerings of the 50th Anniversary Kennedy. I very well believe that they will all be highly collectable and key issues of the set. I also believe that the Kennedy set won't be complete without these included.
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2014 2-rolls set of Kennedy clad half is on Backorder.....
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Out of curiosity, I wonder if anybody can tell me how many sets of dies from each of the 4 mints used to produce the 2014 silver Kennedy half sets at the 4 mint locations were? I was told that on special mint or proof coins produced, each set of dies are removed and destroyed after minting approximately 20000 coins. Which leads me to my second question, if say 20 sets of dies are used for each coin at each mint, are all 20 sets of dies used simultaneously so to avoid mixing first strike coins with new dies, with later struck coins from older dies? Thanks! |
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Thanks Taclough, that helps a little bit I think. Gives me something to think about.
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