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 Posted 07/30/2007  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list
Wow I feel BAAAD for the guy that paid $946 for that. That is obviously NOT a mint error or die variety of any kind. Thats just sad that someone would scam a person out of almost a thousand bucks with a coin worth 1 dollar... :(
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 Posted 07/30/2007  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list
Sigh he even used "Collectible-US-Coins does not claim or guarantee the authenticity of any raw ungraded coins condition or mint error we sell unless stated otherwise. We do our best to evaluate any raw uncertified coins we accquire however, any questionable mint errors or grades are subject to the opinion & risk of the buyer looking to purchase the coin or coins listed. This is why we do our best to show you the best possible pictures of the coins we offer. AND All Sales are Final unless stated otherwise." to protect himself in his mind. Hope whoever bought it used paypal and realizes its a scam so they can get their money back.

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 Posted 07/31/2007  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
that is too sad. I tried to email the buyer but half way through it the page decided it didn't want to play no more lol. I sure hope he used paypal or a credit card to buy it. he has almost 200 feedback's and still didn't see that it is a scam squeeze job.
wow now I feel bad for the guy. he should have been smarter than that OR is he doing it to get rid of the guy selling it. "I can only hope"
good luck all
Gary
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 Posted 07/31/2007  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list
They should be ashamed of themselves. No doubt a vise job.
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 Posted 07/31/2007  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list
The reverse lettering of the coin could easily be attributed to another coin being pressed onto this one. The only problem is the liberty, three of the imprints have the edge of the coin inprinted onto them, the last one does not.
Whether this is possible when the coin is not being minted I have no idea!

Wouldn´t touch it with a barge pole!
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 Posted 07/31/2007  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The coin in the linked auction could not possibly have happened at the mint. The host coin is fully struck, even in the overstruck areas. The overstruck area show reverse images from another coin ON BOTH SIDES of the host coin. This means that the host had to be sandwiched between two already struck coins, on both the left and right sides of the coin. Now assuming this somehow happened in the coin press and the striking of the die was what impressed the images into the coin, the whole assembly would have bent down into the coining chamber below it unless there was yet another piece, a planchet in the chamber below it. This means we would somehow have to get all six of these pieces together in this order in the press during the .03 seconds the dies are fully apart. Now for the final miracle. Since the dollars are struck horizontally and not vertically, these five already struck coins have to get into that position WHILE HANGING IN MID-AIR.

If these did happen at the mint, I think we need to check on the divinity of the press operator. A Saint only has to perform three miracles. From that ebay sellers offerings, that pressman has accomplished more miracles than appear in the entire Old Testament.
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 Posted 07/31/2007  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list
He had another one listed in his auctiva scroll bar, but I see it was removed....(# 220134563468)

Maybe the first guy got his 900 bux back after all....

MM
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 Posted 07/31/2007  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
I would think that the buyer has more sense than the seller and never paid to begin with. we can hope anyway
Gary
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 Posted 07/31/2007  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list
This guy is also selling smooth edge Adams dollars that have a dubious origin. But of course his disclaimer covers his rear. I tried to contact the buyer but ebay members can't communicate unless you're asking a question about an ongoing auction. I wonder if as much as anything else this is to protect Meg's cut.
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 Posted 08/01/2007  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list
look at this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTIMATE-John-A...in_W0QQitemZ230157631150QQihZ013QQcategoryZ149688QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 08/01/2007  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Wow, that's sad. It's obvious it's post mint damage on the Adams dollar.
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 Posted 08/01/2007  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list
What's the problem?! I'd pay 0.99 for a dollar anyday! :D
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 Posted 08/01/2007  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list
Hi,

On that vise dollar coin. They got in biding war big time from 3.99 and it jumped to 947 or whatever it sold for. ebay is contract and you cant control what biders bid stuff up to.

It looks like two or three coins were used to make it using an vise.
coins vised to togother to make it. Since imprints are wrong way like your saying.

My quastion is person paid for using paypal like your saying. To tell you truth paypal and chargebacks are an joke it dont work I learned. Reason I went thru it before on paypal. I know how ther system works. It seems sellers are more save than buyers are.

My quastion is. Paypal will demand the man or lady who bought the coin for over 900 bucks to back up claim with an police report . Since the seller did write his disclaimer in auction. Police will look at and not even file an report on that since wrote in disclaimer he does not know if real or vise made.

The quastion is this seller going get away it and keep the money since the buyer cant do anything about it or police will not even file an report on this rip off auction. To me its look like truth sad truth or I wrong and the seller go to jail for fraud and buyer gets its money back. It looks like seller won and buyer got riped off big time.

I dont know on this one and glad I did not bid on it for sure.
Chevrolet454ss
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 Posted 08/03/2007  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
About that second coin:

Besides the fact that it was obviously struck repeatedly with a blunt instrument, don't they do the edge lettering after the coin is struck? Do you think they modified the machine to follow the contours of the coin?
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 Posted 08/03/2007  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list
Wow, great catch!

I just reported it...

quote:
The edge lettering is done AFTER the striking of the coin and the edge lettering is perfect. Which means this coin was damaged AFTER the mint, not during striking as clamed. Complete fake, and my guess is this new seller knows it.


Feel free to use the link in my sig and report it too.
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