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1917 Mercury Dime Leaved Clashed Die Variety

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 Posted 10/31/2014  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
Great clash! It's a beauty!
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 Posted 11/01/2014  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Very nice strong die clash, but it isn't a variety, just a die stage.
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 Posted 11/01/2014  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Necer149 to your friends list
Not only that, you should check for FSB. It looks like it may qualify for it from that picture but I'd need to look under a magnifier for sure. Cool coin!
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 Posted 11/01/2014  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Wow--I can almost hear that clash from here!
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 Posted 11/03/2014  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list
thanks for the comments, do you think its worth sending in to TPG to get slabbed
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 Posted 11/03/2014  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waxemm to your friends list
That is a great clash.
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 Posted 11/03/2014  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list
I got in hand today looks even better wow !!

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 Posted 11/04/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherreePicker to your friends list
WOW Congrats that is a neat clasher.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list
I just wanted to chime in again on this coin. I was reading Kevin Flynn's book on clashing (the big purple one), and in it he has a spectacular photo of a clashed Kennedy half in proof. Those dies had clashed to such a great degree that clashing was found inside the devices, like Kennedy's cheek. This occurred because the face of the dies bulged out in the center and 'kissed' under the fantastic force of the press.

It reminded me of this Mercury dime, and now that I'm looking at it again, there appears to be clashing inside of Liberty's eye. I suspect that this coin came off of a press whose pressure had been raised to strike proofs - or it had been inaccurately set too high. IMO, this clashing could not have occurred with the standard press pressure. If I'm not mistaken, circulation IHCs took 60 tons of pressure while proofs were struck at something like 200 tons. So, the difference in pressure is quite high.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list
Drsandman2, thanks great info yes the clash goes into neck, eye and nose

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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list
Okay, I did some more research. In the Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents by Wexler and Flynn, they say that no proof coins were struck between 1917 and 1935. If I am not mistaken, the proofs were made again starting in 1936. Proofs in this period were struck using a hydraulic press operating between 300 and 400 tons psi. Business strikes were struck on conventional presses at about 60 tons, 5-6 times less pressure. No proofs were struck in 1917, although a single Lincoln Cent has drawn controversy as being a possible proof.

It seems plausible that in 1917 they started using the hydraulic presses for business strikes since the mint stopped making proof coins. I know nothing about these presses, but it seems possible that they could have been used without reducing the PSI, or not reducing it enough. This theory could be used to help explain why the clashing on your coin is so outrageous, and why that 1917 cent looks so proof-like.

Cheers.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
That is just "silly clashes" what a variety!
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 Posted 11/23/2014  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
WOW! WOW! How can I missed!

Excellent!! I think the bottom band miss being FSB.
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 Posted 11/26/2014  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list
GREAT coin! Certainly worthy of maddieclashes!
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 Posted 11/27/2014  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
VERY cool!! Congrats on a great pickup!
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