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Pillar of the Community
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This fake is pretty easy to identify by eye.. no magnet needed. Key contradiction points. Has london mint tail feather formation( 1-2-1) but has script running up to the rim of the coin(only seen on 1932-35 Vienna mint coins or very early 1936-27 Rome mint coins). And even then thats too much unnecessary detail it just looks wrong!
Edited by austrokiwi 11/26/2014 12:52 am
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
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Hello tokenmast, Quote: magnets (sticking to coin ) are only 1 test that may get 1/2 of really cheap fakes. . How fast a powerful magnet slides off will find more, (slow is good )takes practice!
I also use this method to check the content of Ag roughly. But I have a question about your tissue test. Dose it work with a darkly toned silver coin in your experiment? P.S. Not understand the meaning of "clad coin".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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wonghinghi Ha ! not my test but I have tried it with silver and silver plate against off metal alloys, fun test! Dark silver I do not know. Clad coins = cu-pro-nickel obverse/reverse on copper core. Most modern US coins.= Cladding 75% copper, 25% nickel, core 100% copper. tissue test should work for OP's coin. A stuck magnet is hard to beat for simplicity. I use coins like this for a backup/keeper for arrays powerful enough to pick up US dollar bill.
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New Member
 Slovenia
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I tried the magnet test on 925/1000 silver coin. It's hotel Palace, Portorose, Slovenia, good luck coin for new millennium. Will post photo later.
Next time I'm on flea market I know what to look for :)
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New Member
 Slovenia
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As I promised, this is my silver "coin". 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
That tissue test is stupid. It will lead people to get fooled by plated coins. I think it should be removed from the numismatic dictionary altogether, it has more potential for harm than it does to help anyone. Any test based on luminosity is inherently flawed. A good magnet is much more useful and equally inexpensive as a box of tissue.
Edited by Numismat 12/03/2014 3:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd simply remark that it's ironic that the Chinese produce so many fakes and yet they're also the source for inexpensive pocket-sized digital scales that when used at point of purchase can detect those fakes and save the new collector from wasting money. If a seller won't let you weigh a coin, walk away.
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
^ the best deal for strong neodymium magnets is also from China. The irony is definitely real.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
Interesting topic. I've got one of these but from a reputable British dealer who should've known better. It's the same size as an English five shilling piece, but still under weight. So I think it's a very old forgery designed to be slipped into a pile of Crown coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
spyto
I would like to see your coin - the edge and can you indicate the weight?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
It's got a milled edge and weighs about 18 grams. Having trouble uploading pics but will do one as soon as I've learned how to. 28.8mm wide.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
Oops! Should've said 38.8mm not 28.8mm. Sorry,gang!!!
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
  I hope these pics are ok. It's taken me an hour to see what should've been obvious in the uploading process!
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
The yellowy tint is from my reading lamp and is nothing to do with the coin, oops, fake...
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
One of my problems was that I was using my iPhone to take the photos, so even when cropped the image had too many pixels. These were taken with a Lenovo tablet, that only has a 5mp camera.
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