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Nikon Coolpix L830

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 Posted 12/08/2014  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I think the luster on your last picture is better!
One thing I noticed when I took a look at the image, the highlights are still blown out.
Perhaps this is a contrast setting on your camera, that you can adjust?
I guess it's a matter of taste whether you want the highlights toned down, but here's a way to do it:
Under the File menu, "Open the image as Camera RAW", which will generate the Adobe Camera Raw, which generates a window with these sliders.
Below is the settings I used to tone back the highlights and up the exposure slightly to bring out luster:
The ACR window gives me a lot of flexibility to adjust the tonal range, exposure, and white balance.

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Here is my result...you can see there are slightly less areas blown out to white on Lincoln:
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 Posted 12/09/2014  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list
The difference between your edit and mine is quite remarkable. The most notable difference occurs in the background. While the background in your edit more closely resembles the white paper I used, it appears grey and dirty in my image. I'll keep working on it. I appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. Thank you.
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 Posted 12/09/2014  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Oh--I should have clarified on the background. I simply used the marquee tool to create a mask around the coin, with an white layer beneath the coin layer. It's a very quick process, and perfect for coin shots. You'll find it in your book under working with layers and masks. Happy to help--got any other questions on Photoshop, post away!
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 Posted 12/10/2014  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list
Oh, well you said it took you ten minutes. Match Color > Neutralize takes under a minute depending on your computer's processing power and if you shoot against a white background (whether it photographs white or now) it'll get you 90% of the way there. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

I was going to say "he's just masking the bg..."

scurry, you're really coming along! Nicely done.
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 Posted 12/10/2014  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list
Thanks Scopper. I'll keep at it.
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 Posted 12/13/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list
Any improvement, or worse?
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 Posted 12/14/2014  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Well...your new pics are a huge improvement over the first. With better lighting, you've managed to downplay the surface marks and die lines common on MS 70-S small dates.

Regarding your last shot, it still looks fairly contrasty--but it all depends on the "look" you're trying to achieve. There's a subjective side to this.
Perhaps if you post some pics of BU Lincoln cents that have the lighting/appearance you want--we can suggest how you might achieve that?

I can offer some advice from a technical perspective on your last shot--using the "histogram" window in Photoshop.
Photoshop's Histogram shows the distribution of pixel brightness from deepest shadows (black on far left) to brightest highlights (white on far right)
Below, figure "A" is the histogram of your last shot of the LMC. This shows an unfavorable distribution of pixels in the image.
The white arrow points to a large number of pixels pushed up against the far end--or, white pixels lacking any detail.
Secondly, there are fewer pixels in the upper midtones (black arrow) which are usually areas of interest for the eye, making a pleasing photo.

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These are technical details which help eye appeal. It's mainly due to lighting and secondly: contrast settings on the camera.

Compare figure A to figure B--the histogram of a photo of a copper coin of mine. Notice how most pixels are distributed in the midtones (center), with very few pixels pushed to the far right (white)? Technically speaking, this is more of what you want to achieve in your photo.

Finally, compare figure A to figure C--which is where I adjusted the brightness/contrast settings of your last photo to create a better distribution of pixels. In other words--there are more mid-tone details with less dark shadows and fewer pixels blown out to white.

The last picture shows how the coin looks after I applied the changes shown in figure C. Note: I only adjusted brightness, not color.
Technically speaking, the contrast range is better--but you will develop your own technique and "look" to your photos.

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12/14/2014 2:30 pm
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 Posted 12/17/2014  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list
So you buy this camera take it right out of the box and get great close up shots. The camera is not that expansive and I'm looking for something so I can take pictures of my coins. This camera seems to be what I'm looking for
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 Posted 12/17/2014  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
You're correct Strach-Man,..these are great pics from that camera.


Question..

Can you take a close up of just one letter in crisp detail for us also.?...maybe crop the pic detail after taking the photo..

This would help the "variety collectors" that zoom in to one specific area... like a fine detail in the date perhaps.

So far great pics in these pages with this simple Coolpix..
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 Posted 12/17/2014  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list
That is what I want to do as a Lrg Cent variety collector zeroing in on just a single digit to catch a picture is vital.
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 Posted 12/17/2014  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list
I don't have any photography experience whatsoever, but this camera is very simple to use and I am pleased with the results. For ~$200, it does a good job.

I haven't been able to zoom in any specific device/field location yet. I haven't experimented enough to know whether I need to more the coin closer to, or farther away from, the camera. If I try to zoom in too closely the images are very blurry. That isn't a problem,however, because I can crop the image to whatever feature I desire and the images are relatively clear. They are at least as clear, if not clearer than any image I was able to take with my older 8 mp camera. Here are a few examples.
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Now, if I can learn how to adjust my lighting properly and learn to how use Photoshop CS6, I might be able to produce some quality images. Wish me luck.
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 Posted 12/18/2014  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list
I would say I need to buy this camera thanks for taking the time to add the close up shot to prove how good it is
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 Posted 12/18/2014  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list
Just bought the camera for 189.00 Plus Taxes thanks again for all the help
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 Posted 12/18/2014  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list

Quote:
Just bought the camera for 189.00 Plus Taxes thanks again for all the help

Sounds like you got a good pre-Christmas deal. You're welcome and good luck with you new camera. Share your images and let us know how it's going.
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 Posted 12/18/2014  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
What I do is take pics in natural light most of the time.
I take a lot of similar pics and discard the poor ones. I might take 20 pics to get 2 that are perfect/acceptable.

I adjust the lighting or crop and straighten..etc with Picasa3..(free from Google) ..and Bob's your uncle...
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