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What Is The Deal With 1921 And 1922 Coinage?

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 Posted 12/25/2014  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I never noticed the low mintage for coins in the early 20's. I'm sure someone will pop up with the reason.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
There was an economic recession at this time.


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The very large mintages of 1916-20, combined with a postwar economic recession, meant that the demand for new coins could be met entirely from existing supplies. Mint Director Raymond T. Baker made a direct reference to this slow down in a March 28 letter to Congressman William S. Vare: "The U. S. Mint at Philadelphia is now reducing its force on account of the slackening up of orders for new coins."
http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...s-ch-6-1921/

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 Posted 12/25/2014  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add highrelief to your friends list
You know what? I totally forgot to account for those 85 million Morgans made in 1921. Add that the the Peace dollars of 1922 and you have 140 million oz of silver in two years alone into the dollars, which accounts for a substantial % of all the silver dollars EVER MINTED by the US government in two years, per the Pittman Act and that huge melt in 1918 to stabilize the pound.

THIS has to have had a substantial effect on the supply of available silver to mint dimes, quarters, and half dollars in 1921 and 1922, even setting aside the purported effects of the a post-war slowdown of the economy.

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 Posted 12/25/2014  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list
That's very interesting. Thanks for the info.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
There was a severe recession lasting from 1920-1921 so that may have contributed somewhat. I think the main reason was the mint was hyper focused on making silver dollars in 1921 and 1922. Smaller silver denominations were kind of an afterthought. Silver certificates at the time said specifically that they were payable in silver dollars. So I think they needed to replace the silver dollars melted in 1918 under the Pittman act in order to back the silver certificates. I think it may have been the series 1933 $10 silver certificates that the wording was first changed from payable in silver dollars to payable in silver.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giorgio11 to your friends list
The 1921 Morgan dollars were made as a result of the Pittman Act, which required the mint to melt millions of "obsolete" silver dollars, then buy silver and replace them. The silver was melted and sold to England, which needed a large quantity of silver to quell economic-political disturbances in India, its colony. The high production of silver dollars in 1921 (Morgan) and 1922 (Peace) limited the mint system's ability to produce other coins. The Philadelphia Mint's die shop spent so much time making silver dollar dies that it could not get dies out to the branch mints. That's why the quality of the 1922-D cents was so low and why the three varieties of 1922 Plain cents came into existence. It is also true that there was an overhang of coinage from the large postwar mintages in the U.S.

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 Posted 12/25/2014  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
For all the reasons above, it was pretty much a Perfect Storm year for coinage. Then again, more key dates don't hurt.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
Very educational thread
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 Posted 12/25/2014  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
The mint cut back on production due to the 1920-21 depression. Same situation as to why you see very few 2009 coins in circulation. The Federal Reserve didn't need them, so they didn't order them.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The recession caused the reduction in need for the minor coinage. The recoinage of the silver dollars melted under the Pitman Act allowed the Mint to remain busy without having to lay off personnel.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list

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Then again, more key dates don't hurt.


They don't seem to hurt much... Except your budget!
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 Posted 12/27/2014  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
The Country was winding down from a WW1 economy and took a huge hit as unemployment went up.

The demand for coins was not high as the recession took hold.

When the economy took off in the mid 20's, so did the coinage demands. It stayed that way until 1929-1930 and then the Depression kicked in. The early 30's coinage shows some similiar low mintages with some denominations not even minted at all.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
Very informative thread.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KevinH to your friends list
Yeah. I notice the same "gap" in the 1930-1935 era.

Very useful information in this thread.
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 Posted 01/01/2015  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giorgio11 to your friends list
Yep, the same factors also explain why the mintages of the 1921-PDS Walking Liberty half dollars were so low -- each issue well under 600,000 coins -- and why the 1921-PD Mercury dimes are key dates today. Not to mention the lack of a 1921-D cent/nickel or a 1921-S dime, and the other low mintages of 1921 for the Buffalo nickels and Standing Liberty quarters. You want a real challenge? Try a 1921 Mint Set for Registry Set purposes at NGC or PCGS.

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