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Forum Kid
Canada
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Yes 47p7 has some good points, it defiently does not look the same. Interesting....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The lighting and angle of the two images are also different, remember. It exaggerates the difference in the eyes and the laurels due to shadow and pitch, but if you correct it for perspective and light angle, they're pretty much the same in differing states of wear.
What I don't like is the texture and the lack of detail in parts of the hair. Environmental damage would be harder pressed to do this.
But again, I re-iterate that this is not a series I am familiar with and therefore can only say things provisionally.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Caruso, respectfully disagree with you.
lighting does NOT change distance from one ridge to another and does not change initial shapes.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The biggest difference I see is the lower eyelid in 47P7's comparison, the op's coin's lower eyelid seems to be lower with detail still intact. Lighting would not change the visual location of that lid. Now perhaps that is a variety. Regarding the pitting on both sides, why doe's it only seem to be in the center area? My knowledge on these is very limited. As for a fake, I'm not experienced in that determination.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks more like a pocket piece than a fake to me, but I know nothing. Why bother making rim dings and scratches look 100 years old on a $2 fake?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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$2 fake?! 1858 large cents have a book value of $70.00 in G-4. I would guess this is a VF (not that I'm good at grading or what, just guessing) which has a book value of $225.00. It is a key date, only 421 000 were minted, which is the lowest on the Canadian large cent. If you had bothered checking any catalogue or C&C before replying you would know, that if this is a fake, it wouldn't be just a $2 fake. It can be a hundred-dollar coin even in Details grade.
Edited by Altaira
02/04/2015 12:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Caruso, respectfully disagree with you.
lighting does NOT change distance from one ridge to another and does not change initial shapes. I must respectfully maintain my position. See the following overlay where both coins are keystoned more-or-less orthogonally and then rotated to match at 50% transparency:  The eyelid is in the same spot, but the shadows and perspective are are creating the illusion of a different position. It's overall a very good match. It's just some of the very fine details are missing in odd places. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Steve very cool how you displayed that, well I have to say that optical illusion worked on me lol
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I've noticed that my Lighhouse micro camera makes many of my coin pics very grainy and I don't get the true surface in the micro pics,..so often what you have is not at all what shows up in some of the micro pics.
I still would like to see the edge on pic of that cent..
Natural light and a digital SLR gives me the truest pics..but that overlay photo is a wonderful option to have.. but maybe one of the pics is also not perfectly flat to the lens
...as the right side shows that the rims do not line up as perfectly round..
...but great info here..
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02/04/2015 09:31 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Uh, SlurExe97, I meant that they charge $2 for some of these fakes. I know perfectly well how much a real one is worth.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Ahh, the internet, it's really hard for one to explain oneself.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2521 Posts |
I owe you an apology kbbpll, even though I misunderstood I didn't need to lash out like that. Must have had a bad day, some of the people on my floor can be really loud and annoying.
Either way, if a fake this realistic is made, the maker can sell it for more than $2, because the buyer knows that they can turn a profit on it.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Caruso,
in order to do an overlay correctly, BOTH images must have the exact same properties. distance and camera lens etc. otherwise it will not work correctly as there will be overlaps or missing ends.
the difference IMO are in the hair arrangement, the ear and the eye lid, bottom and top.
Question: HOW did you obtain your overlay image? is it of the same die variety etc, same properties?
just MhO.
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Pillar of the Community
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