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Coin Collecting Strategies - How Consistent Does Your Set Need To Be?

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 Posted 03/03/2015  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I try to put together a set by first date & mint, then by grade. I have a very limited budget and the higher grades
of some coins are out of my reach. so it's a personal thing
about consistency. however I will always try to upgrade when
the opportunity comes about.
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 Posted 03/03/2015  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
I think it's interesting that they even presume that you need to be working on a set in the first place.

I am a type collector and I'll take whatever I can find.
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 Posted 03/03/2015  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list
Hm I have a complete set of silver Rosie's. My rule was I could only get them out of dealer junk boxes. I got everything from highly toned XF coins to proofs. I absolutely love how it looks and each coin tells its own story.
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 Posted 03/03/2015  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I agree. Each coin with its own history can stand on its own, no matter how it looks compared to those adjacent to it.
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 Posted 03/03/2015  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list
For my Newf coin set (date, not type) I try to go no lower then 20 and try to stay in the 40-50 range.

I don't like 60s for any coins made before 1920. With 50s you know they seen some action.

I find sets that range from 12 to 65 hard on the eyes. I like consistency
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 Posted 03/03/2015  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
I'm actually surprisingly consistent in my own set attempts - I try to find all the types as cheaply as I can, with grades only coming into play if it's ridiculously cheap already. (Where applicable, it basically comes down to "highest grade I can find for a dollar" - with the "dollar" part going up to 2-3 dollars for types that don't seem to come up in any grade for only a dollar.)
In practice, for the Russian "set" in particular, this means that most of the coins are pretty consistently in the FR-2 to G-4 range - not below because then they get hard to identify (in particular, I prefer examples with readable dates even though they usually don't matter in distinguishing the type), and not above because they get significantly more expensive in higher grades (often all the way to two or *gasp* even three dollars per coin... I'm using the recent exchange rates here, by the way, so I'm talking about prices of 150-200 rubles).

That said, even then, if I can pay $1 for a coin in G (or even VG) or $2 for the same type in nice XF, I often choose the latter, which significantly reduces what little I still have of the consistency.
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 Posted 03/04/2015  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I think any collection you build is fine as long as you are happy with it's contents and you enjoy building it.

That said, Doug Winter is a "GGCD" (Good Guy Coin Dealer), I agree with his statement of most people underbuy the key coins and overbuy the common ones. When it comes time to liquidate your collection, most sealers (or auction houses) will only look at the key dates anyways, A dealer rarely makes money buy selling complete sets, they break them up to sell in piece meal. Most collectors need those key and semi key dates, and those that have been hunting for a certain piece for a long time, will realize they will need to pay a premium price to fill those holes on less offered pieces.

So buying the best you can afford in the hardest to find coins in your set - you will realize the best potential for a good profit. Now most true collectors don't start out collecting to make money, but let's be honest, when it comes time to sell, you certainly don't want to take a loss on your years of hard work.

I was just thinking about this a few days ago. There were two instances in my past I can remember, both times a rare uncommon coin was offered to me at what was at the time a very fair price. One was an AU Gobrecht dollar (no stars obverse name on base) the other was a VF+ with very light porosity - 1793 Chain Cent, both times I passed, as I could get a lot more coins for my collection, and since I was becoming a coin dealer then, lots more coins for inventory. So I passed on both coins, instead buying lots of $50-$200 coins. It sure didn't help I was at my first really big coin show either, I was a bit overwhelmed by all the offerings ( ANA Show with around 750 tables).

Today most of those coins I ended up buying aren't worth all that much more than I paid then, sure they've mostly at least doubled or more in value, but the two coins I passed on would have been much better buys, even as a dealer I could have flipped them within a month or so for a nice profit, or held them for 5-10 years and made 1000% profit or more.

So in the long run, as I've learned the coins that make you happiest owning are still the best ones to go after, but make sure you know what you are buying, and buy the best you can possibly afford at the time, don't settle for whatever you find first, there are a lot of coins out there just waiting for you to see them. Don't be afraid to step up when there is a great deal under your nose.
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 Posted 03/04/2015  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
` This is one of the most difficult questions to answer about any collection. When it comes right down to the dirty, gritty truth of it coin collecting is no different than collecting carnival glass, beer cans, or antique kitchen aprons. It is a hobby that fills your time, empties your wallet, and brings pleasure to you.
The collector's only true aim is to build a collection that pleases, and fulfills their desires and vision of the collection. All other concerns and issues are secondary. We, as humans (especially here in the USA) often say that we are all free to do what we want when we really mean you are free to do what you want as long as I agree to it. I see this attitude in many of the posts in this thread. If your first thought is along the line of will you make money on this coin when it is sold then you are stepping into a realm other than collecting. This is not a bad thing or wrong. It is correct for you. Is it correct for someone else? Not necessarily.

As many of you have said much more eloquently than I there is no wrong way to collect. Consistency is in the eye of the beholder. SsuperDdave states that he lives a long way from consistent. I will tell him he is wrong. His collection consistently pleases him and brings him joy. That, my brothers and sisters is the only consistency needed in any collection.

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 Posted 03/04/2015  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
CONSISTENCY. If that is supposed to mean all the coins in a collection are all similar in metal and shape, yep, my collection is consistent. All my coins are round and almost all are metal, I think, maybe, not sure.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
For one of my collections, my goal is to fill all 62 slots with MS63 or better. So far, I have 58 slots filled. And when I complete the set, I will work on upgrading to MS64. My other collections can include anything from holed coins to road kill finds.
Some are so worn as to be unidentifiable, and even have a 1782 Mexican 1/2 reale that has been "domed" either for a spoon or jewelry. I guess I'm a bi-polar collector.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
As has been stated, the consistency of putting a set
together has a lot to do with income level or maybe
comfort level of being able to purchase high cost coins.

Many of the classic sets will have at least a few high cost
coins. So low and middle income collectors (includes me)
may have to make a choice to either have a empty hole, or a
lower grade coin.

For example
Coin-Collecting-Strategies-–-How-Consistent-Does-Your-Set-Need-To-Be?

This is a page from my dollar date set. This page has the
most costly Morgan's (by year). If I tried to upgrade the
91 through 95 coins, to at least AU50, it would cost me
thousands. My problem is that I have several sets going at
the same time, and many of those have empty high cost holes.

Another problem is, it is easier to get a better deal on
common better grade coins, just because there are more of
them and dealers need to move them. But on the keys and
semi keys they are easier to sell with out having to make a deal.

I think this is why I like modern sets so much. It is much easier
to search out high grade coins for modern sets, and
complete them with all high grade coins. And not spend a lot of your coin budget.

But for the classic sets, I wait for the right deal to come
along. In most cases it will be a lower grade, hopefully
problem free coin. But when it does, it will fill that hole.
And I will be happy.

Edit: If I hit one of the multi-millions lotteries. Everything would change ...
Can you imagine doing the page above with the top coins
for each of those years. 1989CC, 1893S, 1894P, 1895P
and 1899P .... ouch .. but fun to think about.
Edited by GR58
03/09/2015 11:17 pm
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 Posted 03/09/2015  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I am building a 'set' that has no boundaries or even much definition, for that matter.

What I am aiming to do, and have done so for the last 30 years or so is
build up a statement of the development of coinage through World history from the beginning of coinage c/- 600 BC, to current.

Like the growth of World population, there has been an exponential growth in the amount and variety of design of World coinage that accelerated after the issue of machine made coinage beginning from the early 19th century.

My 'set' currently has about 1,500 pieces in it, covering the last 26 centuries.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
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 Posted 03/10/2015  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
1,500 pieces is just a few, I'll have to get hold of my daughter's USB microscope.
Started my 'set' in 1977.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
I must say that 100% with Tryna and sel_691.
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