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Unbelivable Blunder By PCGS

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 Posted 07/28/2015  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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IMHO that is a move that should have happened years ago. At least you get treated with a little dignity and respect at both NGC and ANACS . Good luck Trout.


I have a Membership with NGC But there is a "perception" by Australian collectors that NGC graded coins are over graded by 1 point compared to PCGS slabs.
I have used NGC a few times and have never had any dramas with the company.
The first problems I had with PCGS started about a year or so ago with their shoddy "Secure" images where sometimes the coin wasn't even in the shot.
They have been getting steadily worse ever since then.
They DO produce a good product and they DO grade accurately , It's just the rest of the service they provide that they really need to "Lift their Game" with.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
Unbloodybelievable
I finally got a submission that had been sitting at PCGS since 6/2/15 graded and posted on 7/23/15

Here is the tracking for this package.
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConf...C570542293US

I did email and ask what the story is with these coins and as usual they haven "Bothered" to email and let me know
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 Posted 07/29/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list
I have found that PCGS's customer support is very much inferior to NGC's. When I use the "Contact us" form on NGC, I usually get an answer a day or two later. I have used PCGS's several times and the have never once contacted me back. Am I doing this wrong? Should I be sending them a direct email or calling them?
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 Posted 07/29/2015  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
This is ridiculous. This much disregard for a paying client (and from the looks of it you do pay them quite a bit of grading fees) is ridiculous. I think PCGS has gotten a superiority complex, their rising favour in the coin market due to accurate grading and better looking holders (IMO and agreed upon by most dealers I've talked to) is soon to fade away if they keep this up. Although I suppose nothing will change until a few of their top submitters step up to the plate, which will likely not happen since they give them preferential treatment to keep their business.
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 Posted 07/30/2015  05:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list
Maybe you should try to send them to Paris when they have their paris grading week...
I dont Think they charge extra for it, but they fly in a crew from the US, and do the whole thing in four Days, then ship them out.
I plan on going next year sometime and combine it with a short vacation.

The next Paris grading week is Sep 10 to Sep 14.

Or if you send it to Paris using their normal service, they speed up the grading in the US so they can send them all back in one shipment to their Paris office and then deliver it from there.

Worth giving it a try maybe? Maybe their Hong Kong Office works the same way?
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 Posted 07/31/2015  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
I received an email from PCGS.
They are having problems keeping up with the trueview images.
Maybe I will get mine at some stage
I will just have to wait and see.
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 Posted 08/05/2015  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I've quit dealing with PCGS the customer service is non existent, the new holders aren't that nice, and their pricing is outrageous. Though I still buy coins in their holders, it's the coin NOT the TPG to me, and generally I don't need a slab telling me what I already know anyways. But this thread really hits home just how bad they have gotten.

trout1105 you are a good man, may the karma gods smile down upon you!
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 Posted 08/10/2015  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arthur Daniel to your friends list


GOOD THREAD.

trout1105 is still dealing with them, says something?
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 Posted 08/10/2015  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Yeah, it says Trout is a glutton for punishment.

PCGS do, unfortunately, enjoy the reputation they do in the market. They do not deserve to any more, and have been actively working against that reputation for the last few years. Anecdotally (that being the individual hundreds of examples a month I'm seeing here at CCF) it seems to me that NGC has been more consistent and closer to the mark for quite a while now.

If only NGC could learn how to get a label right....
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 Posted 08/10/2015  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Yeah, it says Trout is a glutton for punishment.



Not really Dave, If NGC slabs were treated as the same as PCGS slabs in Australia I would Get all my coins graded at NGC in a heartbeat.
The problem is that there is a perception in Australia that coins in NGC slabs are over graded by 1 point against the same graded coin in a PCGS slab.
So at the moment I don't Choose PCGS because they offer the best service ( which they most certainly don't)I do it because of this perception
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 Posted 08/18/2015  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yogisd1 to your friends list
My hat is off to you. You are a man of uncommon honesty and integrity. It restores my faith in humanity when I see things like this. Thank you for sharing.
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 Posted 08/26/2015  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
PCGS have given me a $200 discount on one of my submissions So they have come good on their promise
I have sent them a "Thank You" email.
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 Posted 08/26/2015  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Good on ya mate. Trouble is at PCGS that could be one coin.
Seriously your integrity has been rewarded.
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08/26/2015 8:28 pm
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 Posted 08/26/2015  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Congrats! Although I still don't care much for the whole professional grading service idea, they showed some integrity. So both of you did a good turn
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 Posted 08/27/2015  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Congrats $200 is a nice discount, and you deserve it.
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