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Okay, So What Am I Missing Here With This Flying Eagle?

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 Posted 07/28/2015  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
No way
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 Posted 07/29/2015  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Looks ok to me....so what am I missing? Rim nick isn't bad enough for a details grade.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list

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I think this is an inside job.



Wow you throw that accusation out there with zero proof that is recklessly damaging to an honest ebay seller's reputation.

I don't know this ebay seller and haven't purchased from him/her but the individual appears to be a decent seller.

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 Posted 07/29/2015  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I'm more curious as to the surfaces. It looks rough and I can barely read some of the lettering. Is this a die issue?

I'm not buying or bidding on the coin, but would love to know if this is a "legit" AU-55 or overgraded.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aahz to your friends list
I'm with paralyse - the letters in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA look awfully weak, and the first A in America is practically gone. Grease Fill, maybe? Would that justify a details grade?
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 Posted 07/29/2015  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list

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Wow you throw that accusation out there with zero proof that is recklessly damaging to an honest ebay seller's reputation.


I was not trying to accuse the eBayer of anything. I was saying that maybe the submitter knows someone on the inside of PCGS. This kind of thing happens. I Sorry for the confusion.



I don't see any luster on the coin and it looks like it may have been cleaned. The coin may just look weird in the lighting?
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07/29/2015 01:09 am
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 Posted 07/29/2015  05:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
I don't know but, it looks o.k. to me.
As far as the letters go probably greased filled.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Not a very good example for the grade for sure. There is even some verdigris on the reverse.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
What's wrong with it? Let's see:

- Very fine porosity covering most of the coin.
- Rim nick on the obverse
- verdigris on the reverse
- very poor stike making the devices on the obverse and reverse

Could potentially be a cast counterfeit, but Idon't think it is and PCGS aparrently thought it wasn't as well.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
I think this deserves a details grade.

That rim nick stands out to me.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
What you're missing is virtually no wear on the breast and wingtips. Regardless of anything else, this coin circulated very little. With that as a given, you then have to start thinking why the rest of the coin looks the way it does, because circulation didn't do it.

To my mind, getting a pass on that rim ding might have been a bit much for PCGS.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
This is helping me learn what to look for when looking at slabbed coins as far as if it's okay or if it's an overgrade/misgrade. Thank you for the information so far!

It can be hard to figure out at times what exactly will force a coin to go Details grade and what issues are "acceptable".
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 Posted 07/29/2015  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Thanks SsuperDdave - Just two days ago I started trying to be a bit educated on grading. This coin is a perfect example of what the PCGS guy said about understanding wear vs. poor strike.
PCGS has three good 45 minute long previews to their grading classes on youtube. Just google:
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There are three vids I saw 101, 102, and 103. Even though they are only previews, it opened my eyes to things I did not know since I have never really studied grading beyond the antiquated system I grew up with in the 70s.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Gotta admit it's borderline, but I think the clean grade is okay.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
AU-50 due to the mark above the wing and rim nick.
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