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I'm going to get a clearer picture of the reverse. This was taken under white LED. I'll try my warm LED.
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Don't know a lot about 19th century gold, but did any antebellum quarter eagle's reverse not have the words of the legend separated by the eagle's wings? Or maybe it's just the quality of Confederate counterfeiting. Was it bad enough to lose them the war?
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The front looks like a round cake of dirt with cracks.
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I love posts/threads like these and the discussions that are raised. Good stuff! Thanks to everyone!
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Quote: The front looks like a round cake of dirt with cracks Why yes, yes it does. Thanks Rackster! I need to get a better pic tonight of the reverse. It is a fairly light metal..possibly tin. I would love to do a metallurgical analysis of it to know for sure :-)
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I believe it's a game counter.
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If it's a "game counter", then why bother to put an eagle similar to that of a period quarter eagle Coin on its reverse with United States of America plus gold plating? Anyone who knows about the US Civil war will concede that the South were much more poor than the North. So how did they do this? Asking your opinion.
Like I said. Same size as $2.50 Just can't tell if it says denomination.
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Is a game counter a specific type of counterfeit or is it just that - a token for a game to keep score? Would seem elaborate to make such a counter if just for gaming.
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Huge numbers of gaming tokens imitating real gold coins were produced in the late 19th century. Made the game a little more exciting, I imagine. This was mainly a European fad, with the token-makers largely based in Birmingham, England and Nuremberg, Germany. To avoid any possible accusation of counterfeiting, they would imitate obsolete coinage, like the "spade guinea" of George III, and substitute their own legends. Or copy foreign gold, like the brass South African Kruger pound token found on a Scottish beach that was lately posted in the Unidentified forum. Seems some counters mimicking US quarter eagles were made in Nuremberg, but can't find one with a reverse like this one.
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That is a counterfeit $10, but no way to know if it was made in the north or the south.
And game counters were commonly made with designs similar to those of US gold coins. Frankly the coin in the OP is only somewhat similar to the real coin, there are significant differences. That is why I say game counter.
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Thanks conder101. Here is a more detailed look..as best I can. Game counter? I'm willing to accept that fact..if I can confirm it which is probably nearly impossible. 
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Here's the no-scroll reverse from the Capped Bust quarters of 1831-38. The Seated Liberty reverses are similar, but the denomination is given as QUAR. DOL., and it looks like your denomination begins with 2 and ends with C.  Admittedly, not a perfect match, but here's the reverse of the Liberty Head quarter eagles from 1840-1907. See what I mean about the difference? 
Edited by philadelphian 08/31/2015 3:05 pm
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The first thing that jumped out at me was the border of large beads, totally unlike anything used on US coins. (The 1793 wreath and cap cents did use a beaded border but they were small beads.) And if it was supposed to be a copy of a gold coin it has the wrong style eagle with down swept wings instead of up.
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Good point Conder101.
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