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Handy Guide To Ebay Coin Grading Terms

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 Posted 01/28/2008  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
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There's that dumb bird that flew into a wall again
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Lol...right! Worthy of a second flight...ie crash
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01/28/2008 2:11 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2008  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list
G'day & thankyoum
please don't forget to explain -
nice;
great; and/or
pretty.
Peter in Oz
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 Posted 01/28/2008  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Oh, don't forget to picture "Mint condition for it's age", that's always been one of my favorites.
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 Posted 01/28/2008  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list
Maybe a definition of "rare" would be good? Seems like there's lots of them out there. Perhaps "any barely recognizable coin over 100 years in age"?
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 Posted 01/28/2008  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
"Mint condition for its age"--what the heck does that mean? LOL!

Patrick--yeah, I see "rare" a lot on the commonest of IHCs. Good idea

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 Posted 01/29/2008  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mahgobbi to your friends list
What about all those listings for key dates? Check out all the "key date specimens" this seller is offering...

http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...sop=1&fsoo=1
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 Posted 02/05/2008  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Here's one that was omitted

PROOF-LIKE

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It's from this current listing ... a hilarious read!
http://cgi.ebay.com/1878-Morgan-Sil...on_W0QQitemZ270209551816QQihZ017QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 02/05/2008  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleDie to your friends list
He means polished-like. lol
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 Posted 02/05/2008  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
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I can find no scratches, no wear, no smudge marks, nor anything else that would take down its value.


Nor any of that unsightly original surface!
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 Posted 02/05/2008  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mahgobbi to your friends list
I didn't find the listing funny at all. It seemed like her very honest description of what she sees in this coin. Keep in mind that people who don't collect coins don't recognize polishing. Honestly, I'm not too familiar with Morgans and their detail, so it just looked like a nice coin to me too until I looked really close at some of the details (or lack thereof).

I've said this before, but I think the people on this board are sometimes too hard on eBayers who aren't collectors. I truly believe this seller felt that he/she offered a very detailed and truthful explanation on the condition on the coin.
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 Posted 02/05/2008  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
mahgobbi,

I know you're a very experienced ebay seller, but take it from a hardcore buyer ... this is a scam. "She took it to two dealers who confirmed it's value and called it proof-like". C'mon! Any dealer who would call this anything but an abomination should close shop.

I've seen many listings from inexperienced sellers who know nothing about coins and I understand their dilemma and usually offer them friendly advice through ebay messaging.

This seller's mistake was to involve "experienced" coiners in her attempt to validate this offering. And yes some inexperienced buyer will get stuck. And the seller has broken no ebay rules in this ruse. That's what makes it particularly disturbing ... there's no way to reach out and warn others, except in a forum like this.
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 Posted 02/06/2008  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
"Keep in mind that people who don't collect coins don't recognize polishing"

Well...true. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but somebody sure put that coin under the buffer. And yeah--those dealer appraisals are a little fishy.
Then again, I've seen countless sellers who say they're not collectors, but they continually sell tampered coins or stuff in bogus slabs--why? Saying it's an inheritance, estate sale, etc. is a way these sellers hide from personal responsibility. I won't mince words here: at least 1/2 of the coins on ebay are junk, overgraded, tampered, or fraudulent in some way. I look at hundreds of ebay auctions every day, and I base this on experience.
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02/06/2008 12:17 am
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 Posted 04/01/2008  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I have to say that I think the seller was simply uneducated. I looked at the feedback for this coin. Here are the comments:
e-bayer went out of way to make me happy x-cellent e-bayer u can have faith here

I take this to mean that the buyer realized it was polished and the seller either accepted the return for a full refund or made a pretty hefty partial refund.

While I certainly understand people who don't know coins, I think every seller has a responsibility to learn about what they sell. I am not talking about VAM's and varieties. That is very specialized. But there are certainly a lot of sources for info on the internet (not the least of which is CCF). There is no reason why a seller cannot take the time to learn about what he/she is selling.
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 Posted 04/01/2008  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
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Keep in mind that people who don't collect coins don't recognize polishing


Or fakes, it's an obvious copy.

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Look at the leaves on the branch and how their almost under the wreath. No way even a 1/3 of the way reputable dealer would tell them it's worth "a few hundred dollars".
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 Posted 04/04/2008  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbchaosmaster to your friends list
That very well could be fake. That looks like a Variety III, which is worth over 10,000 dollars in the condition that he described it. Is that a frosting spill around the devices? I don't get it, it's not even a Cameo coin.
If it is real, it's obviously buffed.
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