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Pillar of the Community
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but my thread was jusy bumped from there..this guy "smartpc15" also has a 1923 fake as well
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Pillar of the Community
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I saw it on the counterfeit forum for a second then it disappeared. Maybe they're already removing the listing. The same seller has a fake 1923 1 cent coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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Remember to read the rules about posting counterfeits properly.
This guy has sold a couple of the 1858s ... shame.
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Pillar of the Community
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This guy has sold a couple of the 1858s ... shame. and a couple 1923's as well,he knows he is ripping people off
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If I remember right, it (the counterfeit 1858) was made by Big Tree? in China. You can always tell these because of the die crack & chip at the crown tip in Dei on the Obverse. That D/C is actually on the Obverse for an 1859. In '59 it was mattied to at least 4-5 other reverses, some quite scarce. It wasn't used by the mint in 1858.
You also can never, ever, have a vine break at 7 that wide on ANY 1858.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's a fake, you can tell by the date.
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this is the same seller and same coins I've reported on two separate occasions, this guy doesn't seem to care that he's being taken down
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Pillar of the Community
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations.
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations. No arrows needed. Just look at the overall 'look' of the obverse. The entire coin is not well defined and very 'grainy'. If you want specifics, then look at the 'Jimmy Durante' nose. I don't want to sound harsh, but if this coin fools anybody, then I would strongly recommend never buying a raw coin.
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01/06/2016 7:42 pm
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I don't want to sound harsh, but if this coin fools anybody, then I would strongly recommend never buying a raw coin. i hate to say it but China also makes fake slabs with fake coins in them as well
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations. I find it best to have two images side-by-side. Google image and compare the two. The first thing that sticks out to me are the 8s, the grainy edges and the center. As a previous poster pointed out, the nose on the queen is a dead giveaway.
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Some of the couterfeiters use computer generated design .. where a REAL coin is copied and electronically sent to a laser cutter for the dies. Then, there are no funny noses or weird numbers or letters. You just need to know what are the REAL attributes of any coin in question. Without going any further, the first thing that I look at for any 1858 or '59 variety is the vine break at 7 and at 2 (if there is one). A quick look at the D/C's on the Obverse also tells you a great denal.
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okiecoiner, you nailed it right on the head! I examined the photos and it was messed up for sure. Good show and thanks for your remarks and insights. 
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