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asciibaron, I purchased it from greattoning......I don't know who the consigner was. I do know that it has found a home for a very long time!   Image:  1945mercob1.jpg87.55 KB |
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what a beauty !! congratulations.
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United States
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I'm not sure how this coin be be called an MS67 if it lacks FSB... by definition, an MS67 is a well struck coin. here's the Standard from PCGS;
MS/PR-67 Virtually as struck with minor imperfections, very well struck
NGC has no such definitions and as such calls the grade into question since "lesser" slabbers have been called out for not using the grading standards and numbers equally - think SGS and what they call an MS67.
if the standard is to be that, a standard, it needs to be applied across the board.
-Steve
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Check your facts concerning the 1945 Mercury dimes ,, FSB on the coins are rare ,,standards cover the gamet of dates but not each date ,, There are certian year and Mint coins within just about every denomination and series which will not completely fall into the standards . 1922-D lincoln most New Orleans mint Morgans etc etc etc as for the coin in question ,,I think the toning slanted the grade a tad bit and the Dime is closer to a 66 than a 67,, if for no other reason that the reverse die was worn more than the obverse ,, but thats what you get when you send coins to a TPG,, a varing of opinion based on the grader. some will win and others will lose . Metalman |
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over course there is always a year that is weaker stuck, but how can a weak strike be an MS 67?
-steve
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In the same way that a fully struck Merc can be an MS-64 full bands ,, by individual merit ,, this coin has a very sharp Obverse ,, very well struck with what by the pictures appears to be almost complete detail .
the reverse die appears to me to be a little older than the obverse die . most graders do not give equal weight to the reverse of the coin ,, I would be more concerned with the hits at the bottom of the Fasces than the bands as a detriment to grade .
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i guess that's why grading is both a science and art - there is so much subjectivity involved - glad I just enjoy coins and am not trying use them as an investment tool.
-steve
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aciibaron that is exactly why I do not collect slabbed coins ,, I can see no point in paying for a subjective opinion on my coins .
This coin would be a 66 toned in my collection .
Metalman
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I think this is a beautiful coin but falls well short of 67 in my opinion. The black spot and marks on the cheek and head should have automatically taken it out of that range. If I were to be harsh, I'd call it a high-end 65*. I think the current holder is a gift from NGC.
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i only gave it a 65 FB - I was guessing on the bands since I can't really tell on the picture - I just happen to collect these in 65 FB and have spent many hours trying to figure out the difference between a PCGS 65,66, and 67 - I just don't see it like I do between a 60, 63, and 65.
-steve
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The difference is many times nothing other than where the little problems might be located on the coin ,, if its on what is commonly seen as focal areas of the coin then the grade is affected more ,, if its in a more obscure or not in a considered focal area then it affects the grade less .
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Like others, I think it is a beautiful coin, but I would not take it out of an MS-67 slab as I don't think it will get in one again.
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I was of the opinion the coin graded a solid ms66 and was given a bump for eye appeal. After going back through the Heritage archives and looking at what they are putting in ms67 holders (see the other thread) about all I'm sure of now is there are a lot of overgraded 1945-s mercs out there!  |
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quote:
about all I'm sure of now is there are a lot of overgraded 1945-s mercs out there!
True 'dat. |
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