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1883-CC Morgan Dollar Updated Pics

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Ok folks, what are your thoughts? These are the only pictures that I have, so I apologize for the angled photos.



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 Posted 01/24/2008  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/24/2008  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justjimrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tights,

I agree with the MS-64. The cheek is not pretty but the fields are nice. Very nice CC.

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Yeah, if it's slab-able I see MS-64 also, but it's got a mottled look on the obverse, caused by?...toning? glue? PVC? dipping? rubbing? sliding? storage?
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 Posted 01/24/2008  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the look on the Obverse may be a touch up on the picture in photoshop (I could be wrong but thats what it looks like to me)
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I don't think the pictures have been doctored at all. I think it's a pretty clean example. Just not sure about the cheek chatter and if they are being accentuated by the angle/lighting.
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Hi Tighe,
The reverse looks unc to me but the dull luster and lack of detail in the hair over Liberty's ear make the obverse look AU-ish. The dull fields could just be the photo and the weak hair detail could be strike-related, but if I have to pitch a grade based on these photos I'll go with a slider: AU-58.
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Here are some pics now that I have it in hand. Sorry, but I didn't do anything with lighting on these for better shots. I'm thinking it may be dipped from these pictures, but it doesn't look like it was when in hand. Thoughts again please?

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I would go MS-64 . Nice clean fields obv and rev, but that chatter on the cheek might hold it from a 65. That's a beauty ! Some very heavy clash marks on this one, I have never looked at the CC VAM's.....I don't have any CC's yet, so can't help ya there. Great coin !
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Tights,

I am in agreement with MS64. The Carson City mint put out some amazing Morgans with razor-sharp devices and deeply mirrored fields. Have you checked it over for VAMs. The dash under the second 8 and clash on the neck make me want to call it a 3A. Here's the pic from VAMWorld.

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Nice MS64 to me.
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I'm thinking VAM-5A or 8A, SeatedNut, based on the alignment of the mint mark. VAM-3 and VAM-4 have crooked mint mark placements. Either way, it sure looks like a transferred-letter clash. Not super-desirable, but interesting all the same.
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If the seller had had your photos Tighe he probably could have gotten a better price! They are much more flattering to the coin. It now looks MS and well-struck to boot. The contact marks on the cheek and neck and on the eagle's breast would keep it in MS-63 territory, but high-end for the grade.
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If the seller had had your photos Tighe he probably could have gotten a better price! They are much more flattering to the coin. It now looks MS and well-struck to boot. The contact marks on the cheek and neck and on the eagle's breast would keep it in MS-63 territory, but high-end for the grade.


All true, but I'm bothered by the halos around the obverse stars.
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Yup ... I would agree with 5A due the eagle's beak. I don't see all the clashes that are associated with the 8A. Of course I'm a lot older and my eyes don't work like they used to.
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MS60/64. MS60 overall due to the obverse. I don't think it would get nograde, but it might get slabbed as "scratches".

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