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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree on VF details due to the scratches. The coin's surfaces look original to me.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I've also been looking for this type for years, wanting to stay in the VF-30 to EF-40 range, and its really, really tough to find one to love.
This one is much above average as far as strike and wear is concerned, and I think a VF-30 is right.
Even if NGC didn't flag it, I think the obverse graffiti would be too much for me. I only want one, and I do want to love it without hesitation.
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Bedrock of the Community
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If NGC graded it problem free as you note then it is likely net graded 5 or 10 points. The reverse looks 40 to me and it very well struck up. The overdate is plain and looks very nice too. The obverse is probably netted all the way down to 20 I imagine so VF30 is probably what they went with and VF25 would not surprise me. This is one of those coins that goes into a details holder on one day and is netted into a problem-free holder the next day. Being as it's a Draped Quarter I can see why they let it slide.
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Bedrock of the Community
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VF35. these are so tough due to the soft strike in some areas. the detail in the shield is excellent.
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Agree VF-30 and fear it might well get a details call.
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01/05/2017 4:36 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is why I still think the best grading service is the two eyes in your own head. Net grade VF25 IMO.
I think it's a rather beautiful coin and would be quite happy to own it, scratches or otherwise. The number of surviving examples in this grade range WITHOUT any problems at all (never cleaned, not a single distracting mark) is probably in the low three digits, or even much lower than that. IMO, worrying about an old cleaning or a few light scratches from handling, circulation, or cabinet wear is missing the point; instead, focus on the "gestalt", the coin as a whole, not the sum of its flaws.
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VF-25. TPGs are often very lenient on these hard to find early series. Has OK eye appeal and the distractions aren't too bad.
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She is a beauty but not problem free IMO. Cleaned and scratched. Net grades like others have said. I would be happy to own it.
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Thanks for the comments! NGC gave it a VF-20 which I think includes some net-grading for the scratches. I really wanted an AU example but I kept getting outbid (by a lot!) so I settled on this piece for a fraction of the cost of an AU. I find it generally pleasing, especially the strong reverse. Good enough until an extra $6000 or so turns up in the couch cushions!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think you did ok, and it turned out to be fair. I am guessing that you paid around $2K for VF20. VF30 would have cost you $3K, and a VF details coin could expect a 30% discount. In that case, I would rather own a straight VF20 than a VF details coin. But for the scratches, it is a wonderful coin and I hope that you will enjoy it until you acquire the AU at your goal. Cheers!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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This week DLRC offered a 1806/5 25C in NGC XF45 which looked problem free for $4,150. It sold in a couple of days as of this morning.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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