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Help To Verify If This Australian Silver Coin Is An Overdate

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 Posted 03/04/2017  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
Its a Shilling. First one seen in 10 years.


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 Posted 03/04/2017  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
Is this a 1933/34 overdate? Just posted the shilling to view.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
Yes I did hear years ago that this coin exists. The 4 is a clear overdate. the 3 matches the overdate specification as well.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
How many exist? Shilling overdate 1933/34. Does anybody know.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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How many exist? Shilling overdate 1933/34. Does anybody know.


I'm only a hobby collector but have been at it since the early 1960's and have read widely over the years and I've never heard of a 34 O/D Shilling.
In its favour is that the Mints were playing around with modified Dies at this time and it looks legit,similar to the 3d O/D but these Coins were counterfeited in the 1980/90's by a Sydney Dental Technician,perhaps he experimented with a Shilling?

Really need Walter,Eric or one of the other Dealers to comment.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
This is the first time I've ever heard of a 1934 O'date Shilling.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list
These are scarce but not too hard to find.
From memory there was a CAB article.
Problem is how to get them verified and accepted as an overdate.
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03/06/2017 05:02 am
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 Posted 03/06/2017  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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These are scarce but not too hard to find.
From memory there was a CAB article.
Problem is how to get them verified and accepted as an overdate.


That's interesting,i hope someone can come up with the CAB article.

Edit...if Google is correct its the Nov. 2012 article by Dr. Peter Andrews if anyone can source a copy.
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03/06/2017 06:24 am
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 Posted 03/26/2017  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
Does anybody know any more about this Overdate shilling coin. Any luck on the article that was mentioned.

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 Posted 03/26/2017  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list
I have the article by Peter Andrews in front of me. It is in CAB Nov 12 pages 34-35. He dismisses it as an overdate as the first 3 is higher and to the right on the '33 shilling and the 2 examples he has don't show much of a doubling to the right of the 3 and none above. He puts the line to the left of the 4 as a scratch on the die. He doesn't have the mark to the right of the 4. the OPs shilling might restart this debate and personally I'll sit on the fence until a higher grade example comes along.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list
Interesting,the thing that worries me about the OP Coin is the O/D looks like a replica of a 1934 3d O/D,if Mint staff were playing around with a 1933 Shilling Die surely the remnants of the final 3 would be different.
I surprised Peter Andrews didn't mention the 'F' word as most Dealers & Numismatists were aware of manipulated 1934 3d O/D Coins although I haven't heard it mentioned much over the last 20 years.
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 Posted 03/27/2017  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardsparadise to your friends list
I would be very interested in seeing some posts of this replica shilling to compare with the one I have posted. If they are not hard to find I would like for people to post their pics of this "F" coin. looking forward to seeing them. Then we can put this article to bed.
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 Posted 03/28/2017  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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I would be very interested in seeing some posts of this replica shilling to compare with the one I have posted.


Yeah,interesting Coin,if your feeling brave get a Jeweller with one of those tiny torches to heat the end section of the "Ö/D" to see if it melts or is indeed part of the Coin.
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 Posted 03/28/2017  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Might be interesting to analyze the overdate area with polarized light.
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 Posted 03/28/2017  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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Might be interesting to analyze the overdate area with polarized light


Yeah,or an X-Ray,I'm sure there would be a sophisticated method to determine if the O/D was added post Mint.
On the fake 3d the material used just ran when heat was applied leaving the smooth base surface but it would be a shame to ruin the Shilling if its genuine.
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