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Is This A Strike Error Or Tampered With.

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 Posted 03/11/2017  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
Can you weigh it and get a picture of the edge? If it ends up being the same weight as a quarter, you've probably got something good on your hands. I wouldn't make a big deal of the diameter being slighting bigger since quarters are struck in collars which would limit their outward expansion.

However, a thought just occurred to me -- it might be problematic that we see so much detail on the coin. A quarter planchet is thinner than a half dollar planchet, so it should appear more weakly struck than normal.

[Second thought- I just looked at pictures of certified halves struck on quarters and there is still a decent amount of detail. I compared a half and quarter in hand, and it looks like the quarter is only slightly thinner.]

Summation: weight and edge picture would be useful.
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 Posted 03/11/2017  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list
Seeing the reverse of the coin clearly identifies it as a half struck on quarter planchet. Even without the weight, there are very clear signs of metal flow at the bottom edge of the lettering. Nothing I see would lead me to a different conclusion. Congratulations on your find. It's a very nice error!
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03/11/2017 8:24 pm
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 Posted 03/11/2017  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
you can also see on the reverse where part of the strike happened right on top of the proto rim(well the whole strike actually did but you can still see it where UNITED is) See metal flow also like zimmy mentioned. Most rest of the proto rim was obliterated from the strike
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03/11/2017 8:34 pm
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 Posted 03/11/2017  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
Nice one!

Some of these can bring as much as $1000.00.

Much of the price would depend on year and condition. It would also need to be certified by a third party grading company.
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 Posted 03/11/2017  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Coin weight will help confirmation. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 03/12/2017  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Weight is a must. Looks very promising as a struck on quarter planchet. If it is it needs to be TPGed.
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03/12/2017 11:21 am
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 Posted 03/12/2017  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list
I agree that it was struck on an incorrect planchet. While it looks silver, it could possibly be struck on a foreign planchet. This is less likely than being struck on a quarter planchet, but it is a possibility. The out-of-roundness and strong details are of no concern to me. These characteristics are not unheard of for this type of error. The best indentifier for this being a struck error is the metal flow seen all over the reverse periphery.

Getting the weight will help authenticate this error. While it apoears to be correctly sized and struck on a planchet of silver, there are struck counterfeits out there. In this case, getting it graded/slabbed will be important because of authenticity concerns, in my opinion. These types of errors have sold raw on ebay before, but they sell cheap because they aren't slabbed.

If you're looking for advice on selling or grading, contact Jon Sullivan or Fred Weinberg, error coin dealers. I have worked with them both and are some of the best in the business.
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03/12/2017 08:58 am
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 Posted 03/12/2017  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It may be a mint assisted error. The planchet may have been inserted into the chamber by hand. then struck. It could not happen during a normal run.
Wrong thread. This was not the same thread I was thinking of for that comment. But I will have to check later to see what it is. (away from home right now.
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03/12/2017 11:37 am
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 Posted 03/12/2017  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list
Without the weight being know, it could be struck on another planchet other than a quarter but the likelihood is very low. According to records, the mint did not strike coins in 1964 for foreign countries and the few times it did just prior to 1964 were on planchets that were nowhere near the subject planchet in size and composition. I would be very surprised if this coin didn't weight approx. 12.5 grams, which is the weight of a US silver quarter planchet.
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 Posted 03/12/2017  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If this were a half struck on a quarter planchet, then why does it have fake reeds on the edge of the coin? The reeds don't look correct from what I can see. The coin should be broad struck with no reeds. if it were a real half dollar run. So I'm thinking the coin was altered and the reeds were also added. PSD.
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 Posted 03/12/2017  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
Silver quarter planchet 6.25g
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 Posted 03/12/2017  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list
That's sure an interesting error to look at! With coins like this, my first assumption would be they were reduced under a grinder. But here I see a lot of signs of weak strike and metal flow due to a smaller planchet in the coining chamber expanding to fill the space. It's especially visible in AMERICA on the reverse.

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03/12/2017 1:41 pm
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 Posted 03/12/2017  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list
Slammbass, your right. I inadvertently quoted the correct weight for a silver half.
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 Posted 03/12/2017  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list
Coop...where do you see reeds? The only place where there might be some evidence of reeding would be at the date area since that is where the planchet was closest to the collar when struck.
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 Posted 03/12/2017  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On the third image on another computer I check earlier with you could see them. But now on my computer at home, I don't see them.
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