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Pillar of the Community
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I think Buckwill is just about right. Look at where the "ball" on top of Monticello is pointing. That will give you the angle using Mark1959's gauge.
Edit: This all depends on how the coin is oriented in relation to the obverse. You have to flip the coin over top to bottom for the angle to be accurate. If you flip it left to right, it isn't accurate.
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Edited by Bump111
09/05/2017 6:06 pm
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Cool find,my address is... I am sure there is a premium. Congrats. John1  |
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 Nice find. Yes, there's a premium value for those, but error coin prices are all over the place so you need to search for similar items to get an idea of the value. Check sold prices and note that grade/condition matters. I wouldn't bother getting them graded. None of them are going to get a 69 or 70. They don't need to be authenticated because it's pretty obvious what they are. You had a good day CRH! Enjoy your finds. |
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Regardless of the rotation degree, those are awesome finds and as stated above they carry a premium,now they need to go in 2x2.
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Wow, super cool finds....and 4 to boot! I need to to start looking more closely for these.
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Thanks all! I'll have to do some research on similar finds and what they are being offered for or sold at. Probably start with ebay. Thanks for the rotation gauge Mark1959. I did flip the coin top to bottom to get what is shown. The rotation to me is counter-clockwise and if this is the case then the gauge puts the degrees at about 110. I did find an example of a 110-degree rotation (different date) that sold for $146. So there might be something here...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just think how many get overlooked. Neat finds! Nice gauge!
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Valued Member
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I hate to be a buzz kill but from your pictures it doesn't look like more than 90 degrees counter clockwise I found this picture online this is what a counterclockwise 90 degree die rotation looks like  Those are definitely keepers though  |
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ElonU: Yeah, I only recently started searching for rotated errors. I made it a habit to flip each coin. Before I flip I'll tell myself what I expect the other side to be. So... if the obverse is showing correct, that is in portrait, then when I flip right to left the reverse should be upside down and when...
obv is pointing left then the reverse should be left
obv is pointing right then the reverse should be right
obv is upside down then the reverse should be up and down.
Just swap obverse and reverse if the reverse is showing.
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if the obverse is showing correct, that is in portrait, then when I flip right to left the reverse should be upside down and when...
obv is pointing left then the reverse should be left
obv is pointing right then the reverse should be right
obv is upside down then the reverse should be up and down.
Just swap obverse and reverse if the reverse is showing. What  - lot of wasted time there. Like some here already mentioned just flip the coin Top ( with the portrait showing correct) then flip the bottom to up position - any rotation will be obvious then in one step - no guessing. Edited by Mark1959
09/05/2017 10:21 pm
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Buckwill311: I found a "Roto Flip" page where the above gauge came from. There were instructions explaining how to use and based on the using the above gauge the rotation is around 45-55 CCW.
Thanks again!
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Valued Member
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You're welcome coined that seems a lot more accurate. I have to check my change more closely now so I can find one!! |
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Mark1959: I should have mentioned that is what I do when CRH. I'll have a stack of coins in one hand and look at the top of the coin showing then flip it to see the other side. Its easier to do this CRH than trying to orient each coin into portrait then flipping.
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Its easier to do this CRH than trying to orient each coin into portrait then flipping. If you have alot that you go through then just keep a small mirror by you and just hold it over the mirror - if any strikes you as rotated then use the gauge. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Congrats on the cool finds!  I agree they should have a nice premium but, are not worth grading. I also check for these when CRHing. I just hold the coin on edge at the vertical axis and flip it with my other hand left-to-right. If the reverse is not close to being straight (upside down) then it's worth more scientific investigation. A lot of times though, after I've gone through enough of the same denomination, I can flip it and rotate it correctly in one motion with both hands (holding by the edges). I still haven't found anything that would be outside of tolerance.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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