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Small Carbon Spots On Franklin Proof

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 Posted 09/15/2017  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
. Carbon spots are exactly that - little black spots - yours seem to be some sort of blackish toning probably from a holder that it was in at one time
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 Posted 09/15/2017  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
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 Posted 09/15/2017  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
No help for that.
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 Posted 09/15/2017  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
I have dipped modern proofs in acetone and it will not hurt the coin, but it will not remove toning spots. I would leave the the coin alone. You can not wipe or rub in any way the proof mirrors as it will leave fine hair line scratches. If you dipped the coin in EZEst, it could remove the toning spot, but could also leave a milk spot or black specs where the spot was.
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09/15/2017 9:21 pm
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 Posted 09/16/2017  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dino to your friends list
You could try NCS, conservation service through NGC. I've never used them, just thinking out loud.
Maybe one oft the other members has utilized their services.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The term 'carbon' spots is a misnomer. They are in fact, shallow areas of corrosion. The black is either a metallic sulfide or oxide, or a mixture of both.
That is why they are unaffected by acetone, which is an organic solvent. 'Carbon' spots are INorganic.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
No wonder I got a D in chemistry.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einstem to your friends list
Thanks all for the advice, and clarifying what this is and to not try to mess with it..

I am probably going to try to return the coin.. I purchased it a a local coin store.. and have purchased many other items from the store and they are usually pretty easy to work with.. although this will be a nice test of their "customer service"...

It was in a 2x2, and you couldn't really see the "spots"until I took it out to put it in my CAPS album.

Will look for another coin that doesn't have any spots...

They ruin an otherwise really nice looking coin, and I also worry that the toning may "grow" over time and make it look worse.

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 Posted 09/16/2017  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
If the coin was in a 2X2, and you are a regular customer, I would expect them to take it back.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
I bet those will dip right off with Jeweluster. I would dip it, but just for a second and rinse it thoroughly.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It is VERY common to find 'carbon' spotting on Australian bronze proof coins.
That is the result of poor Mint packaging which offered little protection from their environment.

Even when they were specifically made for collectors in the period 1955 until 1966, they were still poorly protected.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I bet those will dip right off with Jeweluster. I would dip it, but just for a second and rinse it thoroughly
This is something that should only be done after gaining some experience. If you have never used this stuff before, expect to ruin a few coins before knowing how to be successful.

This is not to say it would not work. I am rather confident that Andrew99 could properly do what he has suggested.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Long experience and Jeweluster may well work with with circulated silver coins, but I have my doubts, when it comes to mirror cameo proof coins.
And I don't have the guts to try.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list
My first thought after seeing the coin... Those are "not" small carbon spot. I wouldn't touch it. But good luck with whatever you decide.
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 Posted 09/18/2017  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Dipping a proof coin is risky. I like the "return" suggestion best. It's a very nice coin, but not rare or crazy valuable, so your LCS that you frequent often should work with you.
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09/18/2017 08:34 am
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