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1873-S Trade Dollar Possible Proof Fakes

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 Posted 12/21/2017  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Its a cast fake. Details mushy and wrong, denticle are...a joke as is the rim! Have chocolate inside?
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12/21/2017 5:46 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2017  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmytheartist to your friends list
Did your many fakes have every die crack line described by PCGS
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 Posted 12/21/2017  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
100% counterfeit
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 Posted 12/21/2017  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am sorry to say, it does look like a cast fake to me.
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 Posted 12/21/2017  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmytheartist to your friends list
Proofs: 1. Normal reverse: Breen-5778. Normal reverse (in contrast to No.2). One in the Katen Sale of June 1993, Lot 91, had flatness on the eagle's sinister claws; areas of unfinished surface at the junctions of the olive leaves, and between the olive leaves and the eagle's tail, also between the branch and the eagle's sinister leg; a whisper of a hairline crack extends from the right curve of R in TRADE horizontally to the adjacent A.

It has the hairline crack from right curve of R horizontally to the A
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12/21/2017 6:12 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2017  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Jimmy, a cast fake means the original was used as a Mold...so the crack would be replicated. This is a very pathetic Chinese fake that can be purchased for $2. Send it in to PCGS or NGC, let us know in a couple months, okay? Wanna buy my nice 1873 type 2 specimen, or 1878S which looks a whole lot better than yours?


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 Posted 12/21/2017  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Let me add one final remark. Hey Jimmy, you happen to notice the second 7 of 1877S seems in different font?

Please do send these in to PCGS immediately for certification. Then if you would in about two months let us know your wonderful results. Be waiting!



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 Posted 12/21/2017  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmytheartist to your friends list
Hey I'm new at this, I just wanted to know opinions before sending it out. So I nicked a rib and sure enough they are both fake darn it#128549;
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 Posted 12/21/2017  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
....and then go and change the title of your thread by adding the word "FAKES"! Really?
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 Posted 12/22/2017  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Hey I'm new at this, I just wanted to know opinions before sending it out.
That is why we are here, to help. Part of learning is being able to accept the bad news when it comes, and it will come.

Many of us have been where you are as we were all beginners at one time. Hang in there! Never be afraid to ask questions or upset when you get the answers you did not expect.
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The planchet crack at 7:00 is indicative of a cast fake. The metal cooled too quickly, so it cracked.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Genuine coins can have planchet cracks as well, so you can't use "It has a cracked planchet" as a reason to condemn it. (But it does have plenty of other reasons.)


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Proofs: 1. Normal reverse: Breen-5778. Normal reverse (in contrast to No.2). One in the Katen Sale of June 1993, Lot 91, had flatness on the eagle's sinister claws; areas of unfinished surface at the junctions of the olive leaves, and between the olive leaves and the eagle's tail, also between the branch and the eagle's sinister leg; a whisper of a hairline crack extends from the right curve of R in TRADE horizontally to the adjacent A.

It has the hairline crack from right curve of R horizontally to the A

Note that Breen gives that description describing a PROOF coin die. Proofs were struck at Philadelphia, your "coin" claims to be from San Francisco. SO Breens description wouldn't apply.
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12/24/2017 10:25 am
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 Posted 12/24/2017  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chopped Triumphs to your friends list
This was interesting. .
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 Posted 12/25/2017  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Sure was - I'm convinced!
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