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I found this 1873s Trade dollar that has the cracked die lines on the reverse and obverse. There are also cracks in the coin it's self. Any thoughts? As I was researching the coin I found this article on PCGS coin facts. "As I began cataloguing the 1873 I noticed that the coin was not only somewhat hairlined but also had many harsh reverse die striations which could be confused with hairlines, and so 1 noted that in my description. The most distinctive of the reverse lines were two light, very close parallel die striations (separation of the two can be seen at the beginning; later the two appear as one) that begin at the branch stem, continue through the bottom arrow feather, and extend in an arc past the top of the first 0 and through the center of the second 0 of .900, continuing between AR and to the edge below R of DOLLAR. To the uninitiated, the striations look like a tiny scratch."   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by Jimmytheartist
12/21/2017 7:36 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I see a Cud that enters the fields and the cracks I am pretty sure it was struck on a Defective Cracked Planchet. Nice find! Errers and Varietys.
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Edited by Jimmytheartist
12/21/2017 5:10 pm
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The obverse looks like silver plating has worn away to reveal a copper core. Weight?
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25g I can't get any decimals with this scale
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It should be a little over 27.
Do you notice the areas where it appears silver plating has worn away to a copper core?
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Looks tarnished just like my 1877s trade at 28g
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Additionally the lack of weight could be due to the 1 cm of the rim missing above head and on reverse in same location
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12/21/2017 5:28 pm
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I am not liking the looks of this. I've seen many silver washed Chinese knock offs showing the same tone/color at high points, essentially the silver is gone, showing a brass core. Close in weight, but too far off.
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How can I be totally sure without damaging the coin? Here is the 1877s at 28g right next to it.  Edited by Jimmytheartist
12/21/2017 5:43 pm
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Its a cast fake. Details mushy and wrong, denticle are...a joke as is the rim! Have chocolate inside?
Edited by Crazyb0
12/21/2017 5:46 pm
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Did your many fakes have every die crack line described by PCGS
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I am sorry to say, it does look like a cast fake to me.
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Proofs: 1. Normal reverse: Breen-5778. Normal reverse (in contrast to No.2). One in the Katen Sale of June 1993, Lot 91, had flatness on the eagle's sinister claws; areas of unfinished surface at the junctions of the olive leaves, and between the olive leaves and the eagle's tail, also between the branch and the eagle's sinister leg; a whisper of a hairline crack extends from the right curve of R in TRADE horizontally to the adjacent A.
It has the hairline crack from right curve of R horizontally to the A
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12/21/2017 6:12 pm
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Jimmy, a cast fake means the original was used as a Mold...so the crack would be replicated. This is a very pathetic Chinese fake that can be purchased for $2. Send it in to PCGS or NGC, let us know in a couple months, okay? Wanna buy my nice 1873 type 2 specimen, or 1878S which looks a whole lot better than yours?   $25 each, shipping included...  |
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