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63pl sounds legit
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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MS63 not sure if it makes PL although the criteria was a bit more relaxed during that generation slab.
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Not sure exactly what I'm looking at here. Die polishing at San Francisco generally hewed strictly North-South, so diagonal scratches must immediately be suspected. Additionally, in some places it looks as if the scratches are weakest when closest to lettering, which is exactly the opposite of what one would expect from die polishing. With that said, the surfaces certainly look nice enough for the coin to easily pick up scratching from fairly small events, and that scratching would be difficult to catch from most angles. So evaluating it from a standpoint of whether or not it straight-graded is iffy; my guess is that it did, in fact, straight grade although I'm not sure it should have. As always, one set of images does not definitive opinion make, so take me with a grain of salt.  MS63, and PL is on the table but probably not on the slab. |
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I would give it MS-63PL, but it may go 64, assuming it is straight graded.
The only thing that may be a problem are the scratches, so if it's a details grade it would be Unc. Details - Scratched.
Edited by SilverDollar2017
01/03/2018 3:43 pm
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I'm not feeling the vibe on this one. MS-60
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Assuming it straight-graded, and I bet it did, then MS64.
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Bedrock of the Community
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seems like a stretch to call this a gem with multiple cheek hits
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Way overgraded. This should be 63 or 64, max.
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I agree with the community's assessment.
Increasingly so, I have been getting a lot of 65's that aren't really 65s
The TPGs nowadays are going crazy
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Yup. Grading is not a science, but an "art" - and yet no doubt this Morgan would go on ebay for MS65 prices. The new iphone instantaneously projects 30,000 IR data points onto the face of anyone who picks it up to identify whether or not that person is the owner. If it is the owner, the phone allows access. Certainly someone should finally be able to bring a verifiable, scientific standard to coin grading in an app. And those thirty thousand data points will even ID the person handling the phone if they are wearing glasses, a hat, a new beard, and cannot be fooled by a photo b/c it detencts two dimensions from three dimensions. So it would probably not bee too hard to adapt this to surface wear, details, and dings? Seeing as how TPGs don't use high magnification, it seems 20K points might be overkill. The 30,000 instantaneous data points could be related to grading measurable technicalities on the coin surface and then allowing a human to add a point or take away one for eye appeal. Personally I believe this is long overdue. Edited by Earle42
01/05/2018 1:32 pm
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