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1971-S Penny, Silver In Color!?

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 Posted 04/01/2018  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

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Wouldn't plating increase the weight?

As CrazyB0 said, the increase would be very slight, and it was probably a bit underweight to begin with.
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 Posted 04/01/2018  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
Yes, I realized my error while fiddling with the image. I was researching an unplated zinc cent of my own just a couple of days ago which came immediately to mind, and overlooked the date on the op coin. Not enough coffee :)
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 Posted 04/01/2018  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bakeshady to your friends list
Thanks for all the help guys, what a great forum! Here is a side view which I should have included originally. The sides all look original copper in color, as in it doesn't appear to have worn through a coating to reveal copper. The front and back of the coin don't seem to show any copper under or at points of wear, just a silvery color with some darker/wear marks like on Lincoln's shoulder. If it was coated wouldn't the wear and finish be the same on the side wall of the coin as the front and back?
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 Posted 04/01/2018  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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If it was coated wouldn't the wear and finish be the same on the side wall of the coin as the front and back?


One would think. How bout Paint? Try an 100% acetone soak for a few hours to see if the silver colour comes off. Other than that it's strange the edge didn't take the silvery colour.
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 Posted 04/01/2018  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list

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If it was coated wouldn't the wear and finish be the same on the side wall of the coin as the front and back?


Yes potentially, although areas can be masked off from the plating if desired. Also, just a head's up that back in the "old days" one way to make a cent silver-colored was to rub it with Mercury. I'm not saying that this was done to your specific coin, but this early CCF thread talks about this possibility:

http://goccf.com/t/96160
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 Posted 04/01/2018  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Heated coin. Zinc has a lower melting point than copper, when heated the zinc will diffuse outward and onto the surface creating this effect.


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That's pretty cool, BadThad. Does that apply to the copper-plated Zincolns too or do you just have the 2007 in your photo for color comparison? I wouldn't think Zincolns would hold up to heat as well as 95% copper.
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Heated coin. Zinc has a lower melting point than copper, when heated the zinc will diffuse outward and onto the surface creating this effect.


But wouldn't the 1964 penny in your picture be 95% copper?
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But wouldn't the 1964 penny in your picture be 95% copper?
Yes. But the remaining 5% is zinc.

(Before 1962 the 5% was a mixture of tin and zinc.)
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Does that apply to the copper-plated Zincolns too or do you just have the 2007 in your photo for color comparison?


Just for color. I never tried heating a Zincoln too far with my mini-torch. I know a light heating just makes the copper plating change colors.

Any 95% copper cent will turn silver with enough heat!
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I didn't realize that little amount of zinc could do the trick. Learn something new.
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Very interesting! It sounds like it def helps to know your chemistry :)
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I managed to turn a 1975 penny goldish colored by soaking it in a water/white vinegar/salt/baking soda/ solution while cleaning it with a rag. I came out shiny, clean and gold with kinda pretty clouds of layered amber colors.
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